Ringing kits for sale on ebay...No not on our watch!

[67Lenham]

Focus RS one on there as well;

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Focus-Rs-Mk1-V5-Lo...

[Liquid Knight]

Just inboxed the RS owners club Facebook page...

message said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Focus-Rs-Mk1-V5-Lo...

Anyone had a Focus RS stolen recently?

You're about to.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/204247

[anonymous-user]

Can someone explain ringing kits for me? Sorry for the amateurish comment

[InitialDave]

sleepera6 said:

Can someone explain ringing kits for me? Sorry for the amateurish comment

If you have the V5C paperwork for a car with one identity, you can make a different example of an identical model into that car - to hide a write-off on the history, to cover it being stolen, to make a modified standard version seem like the far more valuable performance version it seems to be, to make a young car into a tax and MOT exempt older version, to skip a kit car past doing an approval test it could never pass, and so on.

To do it convincingly, you also need the bits that are stamped with identifying numbers, e.g. the VIN plate.

[Liquid Knight]

sleepera6 said:

Can someone explain ringing kits for me? Sorry for the amateurish comment

Not at all. Welcome along.

A ringing kit is any vehicle identity that is for sale. That includes V5C, V5 or older log book, number plates, VIN plates or some cases complete history files and other documents.

Whether sold with criminal intent or not.

Primarily our concern is these kits are used to change the identity of a stolen vehicle but could just as easily be used to hide insurance status, reduce mileage, make a vehicle tax or MOT exempt or elevate the value of a vehicle that once sold would be fraud.

[anonymous-user]

Ah. Clearly this is a criminal act! I see you are already notifying police

[Liquid Knight]

sleepera6 said:

Ah. Clearly this is a criminal act! I see you are already notifying police

Via these guys...

https://navcis.police.uk/

...if enough information is available.

[6cylGolf]

not so much a kit but a car

replica xr2 here (red one of the lot of two)

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...

genuine xr2 matching numbers here.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...

2 different sellers. 1st seller was honest.

This is what kits achieve.

Edited by 6cylGolf on Monday 11th December 22:48

[AlexRS2782]

Not sure if you've already done it, but can you also let Clayton who runs the Mk1 FRSOC know, as I don't have FB and he'll be very interested in getting that removed / tracked, etc, and prevent another Mk1 being cloned or a fake one being created which has happened at least once before

https://en-gb.facebook.com/mk1focusrsoc/

The sad thing about the username / location of that eBay account, I think that could even belong to a former RSOC user / member, so they'll know exactly what they're doing in selling that

Liquid Knight said:

Just inboxed the RS owners club Facebook page...

message said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Focus-Rs-Mk1-V5-Lo...

Anyone had a Focus RS stolen recently?

You're about to.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/204247

[Liquid Knight]

It's always worse if you click "See Other Items" and find they are a commercial breaker.

If they're willing to sell a Ringing Kit and thus aid and abet the theft of a motor vehicle how legit does it make the parts donors look?

[Liquid Knight]

Via the Morris Minor club page on Facebook.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292374082213?ul_noapp=t...



We're getting through people.

[Liquid Knight]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1958-ford-zephyr-logboo...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HOTROD-historic-vehicle...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-MKI-957cc-3...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-POLO-2010-Silver-V5-...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Series-2A-lo...



Just five of the five hundred plus listed.

[spanky3]

I don't get how this is still on there despite being reported weeks ago. Ebay complicit in ringing.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Focus-Rs-Mk1-V5-Lo...

[Liquid Knight]

spanky3 said:

I don't get how this is still on there despite being reported weeks ago. Ebay complicit in ringing.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Focus-Rs-Mk1-V5-Lo...

Yes. eBay are as much accessories as the sellers.

[loose cannon]

Liquid Knight said:

Ready guys?

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/204247

My petition has been approved,

Signed

[Liquid Knight]

loose cannon said:

Liquid Knight said:

Ready guys?

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/204247

My petition has been approved,

Signed

Thank you and thank you all who have contributed to this thread positively or negatively over the last twelve months.

Every comment gets the thread moved to the top of the list so more people see it.

Thus raising awareness of it and what we are trying to achieve.

Thank you to those who seconded my petition and all who have signed it so far.

"Sign and share to show you care".

Thank you to everyone who haven't posted or forwarded to the thread but have been finding and reporting illegal listings covertly.

Thank you to the Police Vehicle Crime Intelligence Service...

https://navcis.police.uk/

...who haven't blocked my emails (yet) and acting on information I and we have passed on to them.

Thank you to eBay admin's for removing some of the listings, shame they haven't removed them all but it's not like their site is providing an outlet for criminal activity making them accessories to whatever crimes the Ringing Kits are used for at all eh?

Thank you to the Pistonheads Forum admin' team for allowing this thread to continue despite the number of site members (criminals) who have complained about it.


Oh just one more thing if you are reading this...

Merry Christmas

Edited by Liquid Knight on Monday 25th December 12:01

[loose cannon]

S1 landrover vin and tag on The bay

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...

Seasons greetings

[Liquid Knight]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253314265178

Not only are eBay failing to remove these unlawful listings they are sending me emails to say there's £100 be discounted from the price.

[cptsideways]

Liquid Knight said:

Re-reported and YMO 456 has been reported to the ACPO-AVCIS guys.

Old post resurrection, but this plate has had two MOT's since this was originally posted so its back on the road in some form or another.

Posting reg numbers in the threads might be rather useful, this vehicle is quite probably nicked & re plated using this ID

MOT History
Mileage recorded at test, parts failed or had minor problems

Date tested
25 August 2015
PASS
Mileage
73,568 miles
MOT test number
4604 6087 8386
Test location
unavailable until further notice
Expiry date
3 September 2016
Date tested
4 September 2014
PASS
Mileage
73,537 miles
MOT test number
3374 5784 4494
Test location
unavailable until further notice
Expiry date
3 September 2015

[Liquid Knight]

Via the Morris Minor owners club page...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/173061831744

...I thought I would have a bit of fun with it this time.



I'll let you know if I get a reply.