RE: Driven: BMW M5

[kambites]

Garlick said:

Shame about the lack of a Touring however.

Surely that'll come in time?

[Fire99]

Nope.. Not for me. It's just too technically good. The M5 has gone a good few steps too far into hugeness.

[craigjm]

Played around with the configurator for the M5 the other day and it is comparatively good value due to the kit that is standard. If you spec up an M5 with all the toys and then do the same to the 640d the M5 is cheaper as more of the toys (such as HUD) are standard whereas they are not on the 6.

[Beefmeister]

Another nice one from Chris Harris on Twitter:

Can someone tell me what 2 car combo beats this?



New M5 and Harris' own GT3 RS 4.0.

Git.


edit: Just noticed he's parked the 4.0 in a disabled space - one can only assume it just for taking the photo....

Edited by Beefmeister on Thursday 22 September 10:00

[Nors]

STiG911 said:

It's hard to get past the fact that the '5 is now unbelievably fugly. The last model was a lot more 'Hyperformance in a Sharp Suit' This one is just, well, not.

I can't think of a marque in recent years that has caused such debate on styling matters as BMW. I don't like the styling (since bangle started the "revolution")of any BMW in recent times. Sad, because in years gone by, you would never have heard anyone saying that a BMW was ugly!!

This F10 model, whilst I'm not drooling at it's styling, is better than the last one IMHO!

I'm sure this M5 will be a success for all the right reasons, but for this money, the Interior is the biggest let down for me.

[Fire99]

Beefmeister said:

Can someone tell me what 2 car combo beats this?

E28 M5 and a Ferrari 288 GTO.

[Zod]

Fire99 said:

Beefmeister said:

Can someone tell me what 2 car combo beats this?

E28 M5 and a Ferrari 288 GTO.

I think the subtext of the question was that the budget had to be similar.

[Fire99]

Zod said:

Fire99 said:

Beefmeister said:

Can someone tell me what 2 car combo beats this?

E28 M5 and a Ferrari 288 GTO.

I think the subtext of the question was that the budget had to be similar.

Well you'll save a few quid on the E28. Ok, trade the 288 for a Porsche 911 (993) Turbo.
Ta daaaa!

[Beefmeister]

Zod said:

Fire99 said:

Beefmeister said:

Can someone tell me what 2 car combo beats this?

E28 M5 and a Ferrari 288 GTO.

I think the subtext of the question was that the budget had to be similar.

Agreed. And in the context of the modern world, the E28 and 288 are vastly inferior.

I would say an M5 Touring would be the only way to top that duo.

[Lowbourne1]

Yes, I thought that too, boring mirrors

[British Beef]

jbi said:

Heat
Turbo Reliability
Complexity
Redline
Character

Are all new factors to consider that were previously absent

A 5.0 litre NA V8 would have been better.

I agree. That engine bay looks really tight maintenance and repair costs are going to be market leaders when these things are out of warranty, there is just so much to go wrong, and the extra heat will surely accelerate this.

A buyer from new will not care, as all repairs under warranty. However a 2nd hand buyer out of warranty, Im not sure I would want to take that risk. The Merc E63, on the face of it is a much simpler (and likely) reliable prospect. With similar performance and a better soundtrack (I expect).

The 5lt V8 would be nice, but tuned to the same power (without ever being able to achieve similar Toque) it would have an MPG close to the V10.

[Fire99]

Beefmeister said:

Agreed. And in the context of the modern world, the E28 and 288 are vastly inferior.

I would say an M5 Touring would be the only way to top that duo.

Horses and their courses. Technically inferior, yep. Character and Soul??? umm no! I think not.

My money would still go with the dinosaurs. (having already owned one of them)

[Zwoelf]

"Artificial aspiration"

That's a new one on me.

[g4ry13]

Beefmeister said:

Another nice one from Chris Harris on Twitter:

Can someone tell me what 2 car combo beats this?



New M5 and Harris' own GT3 RS 4.0.

Git.

Not the best parking job & has someone parked in disabled?

According to PH it sounds like Mercedes/Audi are making better drivers cars than the BMW. I'd probably go for the M5 with the V10. I love a V10.

[Nors]

g4ry13 said:

According to PH it sounds like Mercedes/Audi are making better drivers cars than the BMW.

Based on?

[Zod]

Nors said:

g4ry13 said:

According to PH it sounds like Mercedes/Audi are making better drivers cars than the BMW.

Based on?

Audi!

[CliveM]

Minor point but I thought that the ring taxis were now going to be M3s?

http://www.egmcartech.com/2011/06/09/the-ring-taxi...

Something Herr Pogel would surely have known? So disappointing to have corporate utter BS seeping into every corner of a company...
Why is it that no-one is embarrassed any more about lying to their customers?

Edited by CliveM on Thursday 22 September 10:16

[British Beef]

Fire99 said:

Zod said:

Fire99 said:

Beefmeister said:

Can someone tell me what 2 car combo beats this?

E28 M5 and a Ferrari 288 GTO.

I think the subtext of the question was that the budget had to be similar.

Well you'll save a few quid on the E28. Ok, trade the 288 for a Porsche 911 (993) Turbo.
Ta daaaa!

With a similar budget and buying new, I would opt for:
The new Exige S (V6) and a Jag XJ Supersport
Or
Ultima GTR 720 and Range Rover
Or
Morgan Aero 8 and AM Rapide

[edo]

It will be a flop. Everyone will mourn the V10 M5 and M6 and used prices of those will rocket...

[Nors]

edo said:

the V10 M5 and M6 and used prices of those will rocket...

In which direction though?