RE: SOTW: Saab 9000 Aero

RE: SOTW: Saab 9000 Aero

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turboslippers

187 posts

247 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Great cars, I bought one of these from the PH classifieds on a bit of a whim. I think it was because my dad owned one new back in 1996 and it was the first car I drove round some car parks.
I fondly remembered the comedy torque steer, rubbery gearchange and generaly clunkyness of all of the controls. So, when a similar example came up with a crazy service history and pretty much the entire abbott racing parts catologue attached for 1600 quid. I leapt at it.
Normally 140k would have me slightly concerned but the middle owner decided, at 100k, to basically have the whole car rebuilt (no idea why...would have been worth 6k tops at the time). As such, all new suspension, engine, 'box, respray +abbot bits etc. It felt utterly bombproof...
It had about 280bhp as well which was about 150 more than the chassis seemed capable of handling. Wide open throttle in 2nd/3rd on a less-than-perfect A-road would result in quite severe wandering of the front end (normally towards the nearest hedge). You could also exit a roundabout in 3rd and, whilst cranked over, give it the beans which meant it could spin up the inside wheel and then manage the next 100-200m with one of the front tyres merrily bonfiring itself. Utterly childish and missus once asked 'why would you do that?'. Clearly the answer was 'because I can?'
The heated seats are epic in them, as is the heating A/C system. I'll be the first to admit that they look 'somewhat dated' now mind you..
An obvious rival to this (in SOTW) terms is a big BMW so when a bargain E38 740i came up I also couldn't resist that. I ran the two for a few months and concluded the BM was, by far, the better barge.
Good shed though and surely one of the few times that 3 spoke wheels don't look anything other than totally gash!

Ben

seefarr

1,464 posts

186 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Good choice Riggers! whistle

pSyCoSiS

3,591 posts

205 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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That seems a good example of a 9000, and a very honest and to-the-point description.

Yet to own a Saab, but if I were to buy one, will prob be a pre-GM example...

ashjones

101 posts

166 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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I had one of these many years ago and took it to Abbot Racing to be re-mapped and have adjustable Koni shocks and springs fitted along with a beefy front strut brace.

The ride was rather firm even with the shocks on their softest setting but my God did it accelerate! It was like driving the worlds heaviest go-kart that did over 150mph. smile

It was solid, rust free and only let down by electrical problems in the end, just like the one in the ad.

swiftpete

1,894 posts

193 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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I had a 9000 2.3 FPT, although I wanted the aero. It would do 150mph easily. Great cars, I sold mine in the end cos the turbo blew but I should have just fixed it and kept it. It was surprisingly good on petrol too, used to get around 31 mpg.

carinaman

21,282 posts

172 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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cybersimon said:
The Type 4 body was " a joint project between Peugeot, Fiat, Lancia and Saab. "

I thought it was Alfa Romeo, not Peugeot. Where is your anorak?
A shocking error from Riggers.

I guess the Pug 605 does look a little like the 164, both Pininfarina. Perhaps he was even thinking 405 instead of 164?

billzeebub

3,864 posts

199 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Extremely cool car, and for that price I would have it all day long. Not many cars under a grand don't have the aroma of scum about them. This is definitely one of them. As likely to be a Judge as a binman piloting it even today!

Dr G

15,164 posts

242 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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My middle school headmaster had one just like that, got a lift in it once at the age of ~11 and remember just how much nicer it was than the crappy old Fords my dad always carted us around in. Good shed.

P-Jay

10,563 posts

191 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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MrGeoff said:
Castle Coch isn't it? I drove past it this very morning as well on my way up the A470.
Certainly is! I took my sneaky route from the childminder's to the M4 this morning that runs past the entrance to the carpark. Lovely place.

B'stard Child

Original Poster:

28,371 posts

246 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Eddh said:
The engines in these will run 350-400 BHP with no internal modification at all.
My understanding is the gearboxes however don't like that level of bhp but I'm sure one of the UK-SAAB peeps wil be along shortly to put me right

thirsty

726 posts

264 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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This would have been a good shed. It's been sitting around so now I wouldn't touch it. Better cars out there for 1K

dhf

1,103 posts

194 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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turboslippers said:
Great cars, I bought one of these from the PH classifieds on a bit of a whim. I think it was because my dad owned one new back in 1996 and it was the first car I drove round some car parks.
I fondly remembered the comedy torque steer, rubbery gearchange and generaly clunkyness of all of the controls. So, when a similar example came up with a crazy service history and pretty much the entire abbott racing parts catologue attached for 1600 quid. I leapt at it.
Normally 140k would have me slightly concerned but the middle owner decided, at 100k, to basically have the whole car rebuilt (no idea why...would have been worth 6k tops at the time). As such, all new suspension, engine, 'box, respray +abbot bits etc. It felt utterly bombproof...
It had about 280bhp as well which was about 150 more than the chassis seemed capable of handling. Wide open throttle in 2nd/3rd on a less-than-perfect A-road would result in quite severe wandering of the front end (normally towards the nearest hedge). You could also exit a roundabout in 3rd and, whilst cranked over, give it the beans which meant it could spin up the inside wheel and then manage the next 100-200m with one of the front tyres merrily bonfiring itself. Utterly childish and missus once asked 'why would you do that?'. Clearly the answer was 'because I can?'
The heated seats are epic in them, as is the heating A/C system. I'll be the first to admit that they look 'somewhat dated' now mind you..
An obvious rival to this (in SOTW) terms is a big BMW so when a bargain E38 740i came up I also couldn't resist that. I ran the two for a few months and concluded the BM was, by far, the better barge.
Good shed though and surely one of the few times that 3 spoke wheels don't look anything other than totally gash!

Ben
Sounds like my old car ! i had three of these which i emptyied the Abbott Racing parts bin into and ran just under 300bhp.the seats were like bucket arm chairs with heating too,probably one of the most comfortable cars i've ever driven.brilliant A/C system

Edited by dhf on Friday 20th April 11:18

leon9191

752 posts

193 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Nice shed. Im pretty sure the engine out of these bolt straight to the manual gear box fitted to the 2.0litre Vauxhall Omegas, that would make a pretty cheap pretty rapid rwd motor if u had the time, tallent and space to do the swap.

ReedyAero

353 posts

176 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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B'stard Child said:
My understanding is the gearboxes however don't like that level of bhp but I'm sure one of the UK-SAAB peeps wil be along shortly to put me right
From Paulo on UKS about someone wanting big BHP:

"The td04 will need to be a no.6 hotside for those figures, and a decent ic. Can't see those being got for 350.....
You'll not need new fpr but at least green giants.
You'll ideally need a 3" middle and back exhaust too.
With 350bhp you'll need forge pistons tbh.
Decent uprated fuel pump too.
Then you'll need decent suspension, maybe lsd, top range tyres or you'll be spinning everywhere.
Clutch unless in top order would say bye."

So would be struggling!

urquattro

755 posts

186 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Good shed and advert, should I have needed a £1000 vehicle built like cammel laid's toilet block with decent mods then I would have been down the road for this, telling statement re air cooled turbo?
warm up and cool down times as per earliest audi ur. This could be a fine car, too good to break and couple of o/s jobs done and probably two years good motoring, love these older, well built quality cars hence my few.;)

dbdb

4,324 posts

173 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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They're nice cars and a decent shed of the week, but of the two I would probably rather have the Volvo.

carinaman

21,282 posts

172 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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www.sevenman.f2s.com

May be a top read on these. I think he got a 944S2 next.

Brett748

919 posts

166 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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If I had a spare grand I'd buy that in a heartbeat.

270bhp of boosted swedish barge for £1000. Count me it.

tomoleeds

770 posts

186 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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i could think of a lot of better 4 doors so spend my grand on, 2003 vauhall omega, 2.2 cdx. 2002 vectra, even a mondeo 2003, is going look better than that saab, and are as good to drive.; saab 1/10,
cant be just me,they would not have gone bust if they had sold more.

Minemapper

933 posts

156 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Lovely, somewhat rapid, and large boat. I'll eat my boots if he really gets 32mpg though. My dad's old low pressure turbo one got 27 max, downhill with a following wind.