RE: New Hethel, new Lotus
Discussion
jimmy156 said:
How ridiculous is this statement of the lotus website:
At least they are being honest. We all know the official figures are usually to be taken with a sack of salt - especially for certain two cylinder cars where owners have got nowhere near the official figures.lotus said:
∞ The fuel consumption and emission figures stated here were generated under official testing conditions and these fuel consumption and emission figures may not be capable of reproduction during normal road driving.
B'stard Child said:
People seem to be sensitive to "Top Lurking" comments - I've never regarded it as an offensive comment - more a "wow how on earth do you avoid posting - yet clearly you are reading"
braddo said:
Maulden7 said:
"Nice lurking, 3 posts in 88 months!"
And with a welcome back like that it's going to be my last!
From what I have seen it is usually said as a compliment. And with a welcome back like that it's going to be my last!
I could have got all upset by the comment "So back to the circuit!" where he obviously got upset that we were discussing the photo from the article and not the circuit... but I didn't because I'm not a sensitive poppet
LivinLaVidaLotus said:
At least they are being honest. We all know the official figures are usually to be taken with a sack of salt - especially for certain two cylinder cars where owners have got nowhere near the official figures.
Exactly, my "ridiculous" comment was aimed at the situation where lotus have to put a qualifying statement like this, not at lotus themselves Captain Muppet said:
Not according to the BBC about an hour ago: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17829069
Unfortunately, also this, 6 hours later http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-17834...
(another lurker here. 7 posts in 6 years. Hi all!!)
stickyfiddle said:
Captain Muppet said:
Not according to the BBC about an hour ago: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17829069
Unfortunately, also this, 6 hours later http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-17834...(another lurker here. 7 posts in 6 years. Hi all!!)
The Wookie said:
stickyfiddle said:
Captain Muppet said:
Not according to the BBC about an hour ago: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17829069
Unfortunately, also this, 6 hours later http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-17834...(another lurker here. 7 posts in 6 years. Hi all!!)
k away from business! He obviously is utterly clueless!
I'm not willing to see Lotus go, but I'm not a fanboy.
Lotus has wasted a lot of precious money in recent years in developing flops (Evora, Europa).
What's more irritating is the "group thinking" which surrounds every thing Lotus makes. They are able to develop wonderful cars but their products don't get criticised enough when they deserve so, there's always a manager/politician/economic downturn to blame, not the cars. This is nonsense.
I've driven an Elise 111 at the Nurburgring, a turbocharged VX220, a 2-11 in Imola; all of these cars are excellent (except for the transmission) and they deserve the credit they have.
On the contrary, I've never read an article about the Evora which pointed the problems with this car: its proportions are wrong, the roof is ugly, the transmission is terrible, the engine is all but sporty, the price is too high. And the sales reflect that.
I'm the first who wants a healthy Lotus developing sound products but there has to be someone willing to give frank feedback. Until then, feel free to wear your pink glasses and stare at the death of another glorious British manifacturer.
Lotus has wasted a lot of precious money in recent years in developing flops (Evora, Europa).
What's more irritating is the "group thinking" which surrounds every thing Lotus makes. They are able to develop wonderful cars but their products don't get criticised enough when they deserve so, there's always a manager/politician/economic downturn to blame, not the cars. This is nonsense.
I've driven an Elise 111 at the Nurburgring, a turbocharged VX220, a 2-11 in Imola; all of these cars are excellent (except for the transmission) and they deserve the credit they have.
On the contrary, I've never read an article about the Evora which pointed the problems with this car: its proportions are wrong, the roof is ugly, the transmission is terrible, the engine is all but sporty, the price is too high. And the sales reflect that.
I'm the first who wants a healthy Lotus developing sound products but there has to be someone willing to give frank feedback. Until then, feel free to wear your pink glasses and stare at the death of another glorious British manifacturer.
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