RE: Driven: MINI JCW Coupe
Discussion
Codswallop said:
Not surprising that a body shell with fewer large openings is stiffer than one with more openings. Saloons/ non-hatchback style coupes are generally always stiffer than their hatchback counterparts where a large part of the bodyshell lifts away.
I understand what you are saying, but that's not to say that a significant part of this doesn't lift away also. The boot lid and aperture is huge.For what it's worth, I actually really like the car in principle. I even quite like the way it looks. But if it was a more focused, driver orientated car, with less equipment and a cheaper price it would makes sense to me, say a FWD alternative to the GT86 et al. It's just the whole variation on a theme I don't agree with.
Johnboy Mac said:
Really? Pray tell us why.
Because it is not a white household appliance like the Golf is.I like VW's, don't get me wrong, but the adulation heaped on the Golf GTI completely escapes me.
Golfs are appliances. Very good appliances, but that is all they are.
The Mini in contrast, is a grossly overstyled, ugly, quite ridiculous little thing. But I prefer those qualities in a car with pretence to be sporting, to the bland all-rounder qualities of the Golf.
My Mum would prefer the Golf. She would dislike the Mini. That is all, really.
I would still happily own a Golf ( and I am thinking of doing so ) but it would be a diesel SE. And I would be under no illusions that it is an object of desire anymore than owning the latest AEG tumble dryer.
Why didn't BMW give this model a different rear end? Think they had an opportunity here to introduce consumers to a fresher design direction. Something sleeker.
Always liked Minis from the front, could live with the baseball cap if the car was solid black, but think the backend is looking dated.
Always liked Minis from the front, could live with the baseball cap if the car was solid black, but think the backend is looking dated.
toppstuff said:
Johnboy Mac said:
Really? Pray tell us why.
Because it is not a white household appliance like the Golf is.I like VW's, don't get me wrong, but the adulation heaped on the Golf GTI completely escapes me.
Golfs are appliances. Very good appliances, but that is all they are.
The Mini in contrast, is a grossly overstyled, ugly, quite ridiculous little thing. But I prefer those qualities in a car with pretence to be sporting, to the bland all-rounder qualities of the Golf.
My Mum would prefer the Golf. She would dislike the Mini. That is all, really.
I would still happily own a Golf ( and I am thinking of doing so ) but it would be a diesel SE. And I would be under no illusions that it is an object of desire anymore than owning the latest AEG tumble dryer.
sinbaddio said:
BMW have a knack of selling cars that don't look great (X6 etc) - it'll be intersting to see how many of these get out on the roads. Personally I don't mind it, it's different and quirky. I wouldn't buy one tho!
But the X6 does look great...Maybe they should get that in the Dakar next time along with the Countryman!
I think the styling is just a little bit off - I can't help but think that a little but less fussy detailing at the back would transform it.
It is also very colour specific. I think an all-black might one might look OK.
For my money, though I would stick the the 3 door Mini.... having said that perhaps we just need to get used to it! It'll sell, no doubt about that....
It is also very colour specific. I think an all-black might one might look OK.
For my money, though I would stick the the 3 door Mini.... having said that perhaps we just need to get used to it! It'll sell, no doubt about that....
The Danimal said:
WillBrumBrum said:
Almost looks as good as the Suzuki X90!
Ooooooh... I quite liked those....Do you know... sometimes I read a review, and I think the tester dislikes the car before he/she drives it. This comes across strongly in this case - you don't like the looks or the marketing, so almost hated it before driving it.
I've driven one... it's much sharper to drive than a standard hatch, and given I'm 6ft5 there's still a surprisingly good amount of room inside!
I've driven one... it's much sharper to drive than a standard hatch, and given I'm 6ft5 there's still a surprisingly good amount of room inside!
Dr Interceptor said:
Do you know... sometimes I read a review, and I think the tester dislikes the car before he/she drives it. This comes across strongly in this case - you don't like the looks or the marketing, so almost hated it before driving it.
I've driven one... it's much sharper to drive than a standard hatch, and given I'm 6ft5 there's still a surprisingly good amount of room inside!
How do you fit? I've driven one... it's much sharper to drive than a standard hatch, and given I'm 6ft5 there's still a surprisingly good amount of room inside!
I think I have a long body. Or a really huge arse. Headroom was just ok, but the seating position was perfect!
I don't think my helmet would fit
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