Enjoy your summer pint, but...

Enjoy your summer pint, but...

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danyeates

7,248 posts

221 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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Sexual Chocolate said:
Hi, First post and all that.

Drink driving is a regular occurance in my local. They think that as its in the countryside there won't be anyone around to catch them. I have seen people stagger out of the pub, fall over and get into their cars. Its usually at this point that I phone the old bill.

As for the zero limit well it won't work. The human body will always have a small trace of alcohol in it regardless if you drink or not. So do you want to ban every human being from driving?
Likewise. Unbelievable really.

Cyder

7,045 posts

219 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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Sexual Chocolate said:
Hi, First post and all that.

Drink driving is a regular occurance in my local. They think that as its in the countryside there won't be anyone around to catch them. I have seen people stagger out of the pub, fall over and get into their cars. Its usually at this point that I phone the old bill.
They're the decoy then I take it? Wait until plod pulls them and then all the other drunken fools skulk away into the night.
As a country boy I have seen this technique used when plod staked out my local one night. As a responsible adult I only lived round the corner so my car was at home anyway.

jon-

16,496 posts

215 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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Colonial said:
Just introduce RBTs.

Pull over a group of cars. Test each driver.

They have been here for years and it hasn't caused any issues. And it has dramatically cut the rate of drink driving.
Sensible suggestion gets ignored scratchchin

B'stard Child

28,324 posts

245 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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MX7 said:
Is my troll radar broken?
Regarding the OP - jury is out - regarding PH'r Phil Mitchell I don't think he's trolling - just a sandwich short of a picnic wink

Bit like when some people give up smoking they become very anti smoking.....

Editted cos I cocked up the quotes

Edited by B'stard Child on Friday 27th April 13:52

B'stard Child

28,324 posts

245 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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chrisxr2 said:
Words fail me. Muppet or Troll??


Phil Mitchell said:
It didn't make any difference to my life either

I bought a different car and just drove through the ban anyway, the amount I saved in not having insurance for the 30 months offset a lot of the insurance increase once I got my licence back and started getting insurance again. This was before ANPR was so popular though
Neither - before ANPR this was very common

steve singh

3,995 posts

172 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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OP - I drank and lost everything.

Message is valid - but reality behind post is definately questionnable.

aka_kerrly

12,416 posts

209 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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Colonial said:
Just introduce RBTs.
Pull over a group of cars. Test each driver.
RBT - Google says


Interesting idea;)

Phil Mitchell

22 posts

143 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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B'stard Child said:
Neither - before ANPR this was very common
I got done for DD In Feb 1998, back then I'm not even sure if ANPR Actually existed or not? If it did then it certainly wasn't common

I drove around everywhere at the speed limit, it makes me laugh when I read on here that people can't stick to speed limits, I stuck to the speed limit every single journey for 30 months... It was easy to be honest, it's an easy mind set to be in.

GM182

1,263 posts

224 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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I got done in 1995 shortly after I got my license. Was more than double the limit - what a total tt thing to do. Luckily there was no accident but the punishment (24 month ban) was hard to take at that age.

The good thing was though despite drinking shedloads in the years after I got my license back I never knowingly got behind the wheel again after drinking more than a pint.

These days I keep a breathalyser at home to test myself in the mornings if I've had a bit of a heavy one and twice this year I've put off plans on a Saturday because I'm still near the limit after a heavy Friday night.

As others have said - if you're drinking, don't drive. Having said that, I think the current law works reasonably well as it allows for a pint or glass of wine with a meal but comes down fairly hard (minimum 1 year ban) if you take the piss.


66comanche

2,369 posts

158 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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As regards a 'solution' to DD, one thing I would implement is that anyone double the limit or more has a month in prison along with a 2 year ban and hefty fine. These tend to be the habitual offenders and the people that are the most dangerous to others - you see them on road wars and the like sometimes 4 or 5 times over the limit and can barely stand let alone drive. Scary. Second offence would be 6 months in prison, third time two years, etc.

I know all our prisons are full blah blah but I've always been of the opinion that I would happily pay extra tax to build more prisons to keep scum off the streets whether they be violent, thieving or endangering the lives of people going about their business.

frosted

3,549 posts

176 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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Phil Mitchell said:
It didn't make any difference to my life either

I bought a different car and just drove through the ban anyway, the amount I saved in not having insurance for the 30 months offset a lot of the insurance increase once I got my licence back and started getting insurance again. This was before ANPR was so popular though
hehe



LoonR1

26,988 posts

176 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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Shotgun Rider said:
A friend was in court for the same thing recently. One of his defences was to ask what was the difference betwen sleeping whilst drunk in a parked up car and sleeping whilst drunk in a parked up motorhome. He fought it and won!
Bullst. On an epic scale.

He might have got away with 10 points or whatever the lesser penalty is but I seriously doubt that too.

CampDavid

9,145 posts

197 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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Phil Mitchell said:
I got done for DD In Feb 1998, back then I'm not even sure if ANPR Actually existed or not? If it did then it certainly wasn't common

I drove around everywhere at the speed limit, it makes me laugh when I read on here that people can't stick to speed limits, I stuck to the speed limit every single journey for 30 months... It was easy to be honest, it's an easy mind set to be in.
When was it that you got banned? From memory, wasn't it in about 1998, just after your brother Grant banged your wife and everyone heard the tape in the Queen Vic?

soad

32,829 posts

175 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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CampDavid said:
When was it that you got banned? From memory, wasn't it in about 1998, just after your brother Grant banged your wife and everyone heard the tape in the Queen Vic?
hehe

TIGA84

5,204 posts

230 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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Veloce2012 said:
Please don't repeat me.

What's the worst that can happen? A few drinks, short distance, reasonable driver.

A few years ago I thought I had it all, lovely wife, great car, good job. One stupid evening I had a few to drink at the local, was over the 'statutory limit' but nothing major (you know where I am) and decided to park my car up under a mile away (it had been parked on the road) to continue the night. On leaving the bar my friends outside goaded me into 'blasting off'. I did and sadly hit another car. 

My God, thankfully no one was hurt, through luck not design, but at that one point my world collapsed. Believe me, a good job, attractive wife, nice car etc mean NOTHING when the police arrive - at that point you're a
criminal, the guy your superiority looks down on on tv Road Wars is now you. 

What happens next? You get thrown in a police van (you protest at the time, but they don't care for your tailored suit), you get 'processed' alongside any other 'scum' at the time and put in a cell after being stripped of anything you could commit suicide with. The cell isn't a special 'it's only drink driving cell' but a full on, scum cell - a poured concrete, timeless cell. You're in there for what seems like an eternity. One thing I would say is that the Road Wars people are often people who've been through the 'system' before - but believe me, as a newbie it's a very unpleasant experience as you know there's no good outcome.

[b]The next part is inevitable. A lengthy ban ensues after a court appearances, expensive solicitors do nothing apart from adding to the cost, but...

My parents didn't want to know me, my wife was ashamed of me and the company fired me. My ban turned into me losing everything. I'm now divorced and unemployed, my parents talk to me but it's not the same. The insurance company didn't pay out, so I'm financially ruined too.[/b]

The thing is I'm so lucky, I didn't kill or hurt anyone, I got away with 'just' losing everything. 

So to the ph'ers out there please think about things this summer. And if you want custard next to my court papers, divorce papers and insurance docs you're welcome.

I know this is an emotive subject on PH, I'm totally not looking for favours, but if one person drank one pint less before driving then surely it's worth posting?? I'll answer any sensible questions too to help the topic.
Bullst. Elaborate.


How long ago was this?
Length of ban?
Costs?
What do you do that meant your company fired you?
Why did your insurance not pay out?
What grounds for divorce, and how long did that take, and why? "Because she was ashamed of you?" have you read that back to yourself at all?

Parents? - Utter utter bullst.

Custard? I'd be suprised. If its true you had a st life/job/wife anyway.




Shotgun Rider

816 posts

169 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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LoonR1 said:
Bullst. On an epic scale.

He might have got away with 10 points or whatever the lesser penalty is but I seriously doubt that too.
Bullst yourself. You can have your opinion but I know it for fact. He may have got points or a fine, I don't know becuase I haven't heard the full story, the court date was only last week. He did not receive a ban though!

cragswinter

21,429 posts

195 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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Going over to the ring last month I got breathalysed coming off the "party boat".

Couple of pints & a bottle of red the night before had me worried but I passed. I couldn't help but think how bloody stupid it would be if I failed as I never have even one drink if I'm driving, but here I was running the risk the day after and without bloomin GB plates, spare bulb kits, headlamp adaptors.......

Maybe those breathalyser kits they make you carry over there aren't such a bad idea after all?

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

197 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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Madness to drink and drive even the one.
If you want a drink go for it get smashed but taxi home.
If you want to mix driving and drinking you deserve everything coming your way. Worst cast you plough through a couple taking the baby for an evening walk you plough through the pram.
I cannot begin to imagine the horror of that happening but I can assure you if you did that Every day every moment the realisation what you have done would ruin your life. Depression guilt remorse - you would do anything to talk to the parents to share your remorse but they would never give that to you your life sentence would stay with you.

Of course don't drink this should never happen

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

203 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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Welshbeef said:
Madness to drink and drive even the one.
If you want a drink go for it get smashed but taxi home.
If you want to mix driving and drinking you deserve everything coming your way. Worst cast you plough through a couple taking the baby for an evening walk you plough through the pram.
I cannot begin to imagine the horror of that happening but I can assure you if you did that Every day every moment the realisation what you have done would ruin your life. Depression guilt remorse - you would do anything to talk to the parents to share your remorse but they would never give that to you your life sentence would stay with you.

Of course don't drink this should never happen
Yes as no sober person has ever crashed in the history of the universe

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

197 months

Friday 27th April 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
Yes as no sober person has ever crashed in the history of the universe
But the probability of a crash while drunk vs sober is vastly higher.