Why the British Jealousy(?) and negativity, RE cars?

Why the British Jealousy(?) and negativity, RE cars?

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XitUp

7,690 posts

203 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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craigb84 said:
Yep. I notice that the latest campaign is against company big wigs and how much CEOs are being paid. If you earn over a million in England you're basically the worst person alive. How dare someone work their asses off to gain the highest position in a company to then be paid more than someone that works on the factory floor.
I think it's the massive amount of tax avoidance and giving themselves huge bonuses when the company isn't turning a profit that people take issue with.

Again, nothing to do with jealousy, stop kidding yourselves.

LukeMR2

32 posts

144 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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Yeah since I got my MR2 a few scratches have appeared on it. Yes it is a nice example and to some it might look flash/expensive but it didn't cost a lot at all and even if it was its no reason for some jealous scrote bag to scratch it. I was once turning into a road with my window down and heard an old woman say 'who does he think he is'. God I hate living in a st area surrounded by sponging s.

Marf

22,907 posts

240 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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Definitely not jealousy.

Envy.

XitUp

7,690 posts

203 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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Nope, not envy. Unless you think people are envious of a diesel Micra?

It's boredom or the perpetrator thinking the victim is a prick, for real or imagined reasons.

Marf

22,907 posts

240 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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Well then it's neither jealousy nor envy smile

Although someone without a car may be envious of someone else owning a car, no matter the make or model wink

Noger

7,117 posts

248 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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craigb84 said:
How dare someone work their asses off to gain the highest position in a company to then be paid more than someone that works on the factory floor but still pay less tax than them
Again, there is clearly some jealousy, but you only have to look at Ken v Boris and the taxation to see how much ire it generates.

Similarly, the fact the Sir Fred made a lot of money isn't the reason he is tt, he just is a tt (and that is from personal experience).

Dave Hedgehog

14,541 posts

203 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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Super Slo Mo said:
drophead said:
I'm sure if I had an £8k polo it wouldn't get touched!!
It probably would. My OH's polo was 2 days old when someone ran a key all the way down the nearside from front to back. Serves us right for parking it on the street I suppose.
my OHs polo was less than a month old when exactly the same thing happened to her car ....

Thin White Duke

2,333 posts

159 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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Is it partly to do with the expectation by poor people that the rich should condescend rather than the poor aspire?

People getting told they're paid too much when they turn up in BMW that's worth only a couple of grand or even a s/h Merc SLK worth Mondeo money isn't really envy - it's the difference between a petrol head and a non petrol head.

I showed my Mum for example a photo of a 1993 Bentley Brooklands that was for sale at around £10K. She said at a guess it must be worth £50K. Do a poll at work and you'll find that people think that a 20 odd year old Bentley is worth more than their brand new Citroen C4. The same goes for Jags, Mercs etc.

getawayturtle

3,560 posts

173 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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There does seem to be a fair amount of cowardly people out there, which is what I put it down to. As someone else said, the car is just an easy target to attack, with potentially no consequences because the perpetrator thinks they won't get found out. Most cases I'm not sure it's because of the car in question though, it is quite often neighbours with some other form of gripe with you, but too spineless to talk about it to your face.

Slightly OT but my old black E30 was treated to some paintstripper a couple of years ago along with 10 or so other cars, most of them being 90s BMWs and Mercs. (no drives on my street, just parking bays) Turns out it was a woman who had some sort of problem with a large family who lived in 3 houses down our street, who all owned the BMWs and Mercs in question, and she assumed mine belonged to them as well.

I assume the family in question worked out it was her pretty quickly, because it wasn't long before her car was smashed to bits.

It's a fun street.

CJ Loves Ruf

783 posts

185 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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drophead said:
yes

My cheap as chips MX5 gets keyed most likely because it's clean, black, and a convertible. Jeez i'm such a flash barstid rolleyes

Society makes me belm at times. I'm sure if I had an £8k polo it wouldn't get touched!!
Not always true. A car like my Mums Honda CR-V from 2001 which has done well over 156,000 miles, been used and abused for things like the school run, shopping and taking the dog for walks. You would expect that to be left alone? Nope, some low life about 2 months ago decided it was worth their time to key it. I just generally believe that some people do things like this because they can. Sad to think there are people out there trying to make other peoples lives worse... redcard

martin84

5,366 posts

152 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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Car vandalism started in 1997 you know. Before 1997 there were no recorded instances of cars being vandalised. It all began with New Labour you know.

Theres only one group of people worse than scum who vandalise cars and thats people who think their car was vandalised because people are jealous of them. I mean seriously, get over yourselves.

Benbay001

5,794 posts

156 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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Alot of people i know act apologetically if they are wealthy, this doesnt help.

strangehighways

479 posts

164 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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Graebob said:
Got told at work that I must be "getting paid too much" when I turned up in my £500 MX5.
I've had this in my GTV. The stupidity of some people is mind boggling.

AndyBrew

2,774 posts

218 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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XitUp said:
I think it's the massive amount of tax avoidance and giving themselves huge bonuses when the company isn't turning a profit that people take issue with.

Again, nothing to do with jealousy, stop kidding yourselves.
what complete tosh, the people you talk about must form less than 0.01% of the population, most successful people whom run their own business or indeed work for somebody else on a high remuneration do not avoid tax and only get the financial rewards when the company is successful!

martin84

5,366 posts

152 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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AndyBrew said:
what complete tosh, the people you talk about must form less than 0.01% of the population, most successful people whom run their own business or indeed work for somebody else on a high remuneration do not avoid tax and only get the financial rewards when the company is successful!
Yeah but they're not interesting. Its the few utter s who meet XitUp's description who spoilt it for everybody else, resulting in PVA glue meeting windscreens with vulgar notes.

veryRS

409 posts

144 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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martin84 said:
Car vandalism started in 1997 you know. Before 1997 there were no recorded instances of cars being vandalised. It all began with New Labour you know.

Theres only one group of people worse than scum who vandalise cars and thats people who think their car was vandalised because people are jealous of them. I mean seriously, get over yourselves.
While no one suggested car vandalism didnt happen before Tony B Liar and his cronies got in you seem to be suggesting that the politics of envy peddled by your beloved left and the millions of "entitlement" feral chavs they spawned that seem to think that a life spent doing nothing useful while sprogging scores of little dears to ensure they receive plenty of tax payer funded booze 'n fags 'n holidays to Magaluf hasnt created a culture whereby its ok to bring down anyone who works hard to become succesful and to destroy anyone elses hard earned posessions just because "it aint fair" or just because its fun whilst not caring one jot for any consequences because there wont be any.

God I fking hate the Left - not proper working class Labour but the "Islington Left" that is, as lead by Tony, Gordo and now that fking hypocritical snot nosed mong boy - and their sponging whinging lazy good for nothing oxygen stealing bd spawn. /RANT

XitUp

7,690 posts

203 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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Anyone got the figures showing how much car vandalism went up after 1997?

martin84

5,366 posts

152 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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XitUp said:
Anyone got the figures showing how much car vandalism went up after 1997?
Well I suspect car vandalism did rise between 1997-2010, but vehicle ownership also rose by 7 million.

veryRS said:
While no one suggested car vandalism didnt happen before Tony B Liar and his cronies got in you seem to be suggesting that the politics of envy peddled by your beloved left and the millions of "entitlement" feral chavs they spawned that seem to think that a life spent doing nothing useful while sprogging scores of little dears to ensure they receive plenty of tax payer funded booze 'n fags 'n holidays to Magaluf hasnt created a culture whereby its ok to bring down anyone who works hard to become succesful and to destroy anyone elses hard earned posessions just because "it aint fair" or just because its fun whilst not caring one jot for any consequences because there wont be any.

God I fking hate the Left - not proper working class Labour but the "Islington Left" that is, as lead by Tony, Gordo and now that fking hypocritical snot nosed mong boy - and their sponging whinging lazy good for nothing oxygen stealing bd spawn. /RANT
I'm suggesting you're over complicating the whole thing by believing car vandalism is a social problem based on envy of rich people. 99% of the time its bored tttish kids or someone with a personal grudge against the owner. Yes flash expensive cars are more of a target but somebody keyed my old Peugeot once, was that based on envy? Envy of what?!

Certain people on PH really do have a serious paranoid complex and they believe things exist which simply dont. The 'culture of jealousy' is a typical PH phrase, no evidence or anything to back it up. Then theres the rants of 'people who work hard but have their stuff vandalised by benefit scroungers' which gets inserted into practically every thread. You believed that st before this thread even came up and yearn for every opportunity to spout it.

Most people drive boring ordinary cars, most car vandalism happens to boring ordinary cars owned by unremarkable ordinary people. Somebody on here mentioned someone keyed his £500 MX-5 because they think he's rich and flash, did the vandal actually come back and tell him that? rolleyes

XitUp

7,690 posts

203 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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Why do we keep agreeing so much these days?

martin84

5,366 posts

152 months

Sunday 29th April 2012
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Because you've come round to my way of thinking, therefore you are no longer wrong about everything. Obviously. smile