RE: PH Blog: What makes the autobahn brilliant
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The Autobahn isn't the idyll it's being made out here. Sure it's better than some UK motorways in stretches but what always amuses and annoys me is the pricks who come barreling upto you, lights flashing, when you're sat behind a slow moving vehicle in lane 2, brake at the last minute then sit on your bumper looking angry.
When the obstruction clears it is of course amusing to accelerate away from Heinz, move over and watch the d
head hit his 155mph limiter while you pull away. It seems to annoy them no end, particularly if you get chance to repeat it.
When the obstruction clears it is of course amusing to accelerate away from Heinz, move over and watch the d
head hit his 155mph limiter while you pull away. It seems to annoy them no end, particularly if you get chance to repeat it.Interesting that this has come up. I have had this all week. People sitting in the wrong lanes at 60-70mph daydreaming and not moving left when clear.
But to cap it all off yesterday I had some pillock in a passat give me the finger for going past him on the motorway.
Pulls out and overtakes someone then pulls back in and as I went past I noticed he was giving me the middle finger.
I was going substantially faster than him but didnt flash my lights put my indicator on or even get anywhere near within two car lengths of him in the time it took for his overtake.
People in this country are thick as pig st.
But to cap it all off yesterday I had some pillock in a passat give me the finger for going past him on the motorway.
Pulls out and overtakes someone then pulls back in and as I went past I noticed he was giving me the middle finger.
I was going substantially faster than him but didnt flash my lights put my indicator on or even get anywhere near within two car lengths of him in the time it took for his overtake.
People in this country are thick as pig s
t.Riggers said:
you simply don't get some sanctimonious [expletive deleted] crawling past somebody in the outside lane at 70.5mph and refusing to move over because 'they're doing more than the speed limit anyway so I don't see why anybody should want to go any faster'.
I couldn't disagree more.The UK speed limit is 70mph, if you choose to drive faster than that, you should at least respect other peoples right to drive at their own pace as well, especially when it's over the speed limit already!
You should seriously consider re-writing the original article to be more clear if you are talking about people who sit in a lane other than lane 1 when not overtaking, as it stands you just sound like one of the dangerous individuals who sit 2 inches off your bumper. At least being in the wrong lane is a traffic offence which the police can enforce by fining the driver for driving with undue attention.
Driving lessons in Germany also include autobahn training- it still amazes me there's no motorway training in the UK, usually just a couple of runs on a dual carriageway if there's one handy.
I agree the Germans seem to have a much better general attitude, they seem to respect each other and where they live more and when I've been always very friendly. The language is not pretty though and hard work.
It's not all peaches though, the autobahn can also come to a total grinding halt without warning, and you'll be stuck going nowhere for hours, like someone said there's parts where the road surface is poor and there's plenty of parts where it's just dual carriageway so you're either in the slow lorry lane or super fast outside lane- no middle ground if you just want to sit at a 'sensible' speed.
The best bit is this everywhere though
I agree the Germans seem to have a much better general attitude, they seem to respect each other and where they live more and when I've been always very friendly. The language is not pretty though and hard work.
It's not all peaches though, the autobahn can also come to a total grinding halt without warning, and you'll be stuck going nowhere for hours, like someone said there's parts where the road surface is poor and there's plenty of parts where it's just dual carriageway so you're either in the slow lorry lane or super fast outside lane- no middle ground if you just want to sit at a 'sensible' speed.
The best bit is this everywhere though
Edited by chazola on Thursday 3rd May 12:37
sanctum said:
Riggers said:
you simply don't get some sanctimonious [expletive deleted] crawling past somebody in the outside lane at 70.5mph and refusing to move over because 'they're doing more than the speed limit anyway so I don't see why anybody should want to go any faster'.
I couldn't disagree more.The UK speed limit is 70mph, if you choose to drive faster than that, you should at least respect other peoples right to drive at their own pace as well, especially when it's over the speed limit already!
You should seriously consider re-writing the original article to be more clear if you are talking about people who sit in a lane other than lane 1 when not overtaking, as it stands you just sound like one of the dangerous individuals who sit 2 inches off your bumper. At least being in the wrong lane is a traffic offence which the police can enforce by fining the driver for driving with undue attention.
And I do agree, FWIW - tailgaters are every bit as - and probably more so - than lane hoggers.
Riggers said:
Even though I say in the very next sentence that I'm not one of those people?
And I do agree, FWIW - tailgaters are every bit as - and probably more so - than lane hoggers.
Sorry Riggers, but yes, even though you state you're not you still sound like you are. Not trying to be offensive you understand, it just seems to come natural.And I do agree, FWIW - tailgaters are every bit as - and probably more so - than lane hoggers.
PILCH 23 said:
Perhaps the UK should have a few sections of de-restricted motorway as a two year trial. If it was applied to low density sections on a variable basis then I doubt that the accident rates would change. Potential sections could be the M62 east of the A1, the M69 and the M180.
No government would have the balls! Johnboy Mac said:
PILCH 23 said:
Perhaps the UK should have a few sections of de-restricted motorway as a two year trial. If it was applied to low density sections on a variable basis then I doubt that the accident rates would change. Potential sections could be the M62 east of the A1, the M69 and the M180.
No government would have the balls! I was always hopefull the M6 toll road would be de-restricted, that would at least give people a reason to pay the huge toll and use the thing.
Baryonyx said:
If only we could import German culture and economic policy to this country and get rid of our useless Conservative led nanny state.
We seem to have to adopt every other ridiculous rule coming out the EU, why cant we actually adopt some of the good bits?I think it would help massively in this country if some form of motorway driving was introduced into the test format and the older generation (70 +) be sanctioned from the motorway unless they have passed a compliance test!
Having to cross two lanes to pass that middle lane moron and then back doesnt really aid traffic flow and safety when effectively doubling the amount of lane changes! Oh well, i guess the speeding motorist will always be seen as more unsafe than actual bad driving!
sanctum said:
Riggers said:
Even though I say in the very next sentence that I'm not one of those people?
And I do agree, FWIW - tailgaters are every bit as - and probably more so - than lane hoggers.
Sorry Riggers, but yes, even though you state you're not you still sound like you are. Not trying to be offensive you understand, it just seems to come natural.And I do agree, FWIW - tailgaters are every bit as - and probably more so - than lane hoggers.
. I do see what you're saying, and I'm quite glad you disagree - one of the main points of those sorts of blogs is that their an opinion piece intended to provoke discussion (I'm not going to re-write the article, however 
)
Just love the derestricted 'bahns...
Took my folks on a trip to the Xmas markets near Stuttgart a couple of years ago that included some wonderful tarmac and the Porsche museum.
Four up with luggage and 150mph in the 540 was just epic. Amazingly the mpg for the entire 1200 mile trip was high 20's.
Can't wait to go back when I've got something capable of 200mph...
Took my folks on a trip to the Xmas markets near Stuttgart a couple of years ago that included some wonderful tarmac and the Porsche museum.
Four up with luggage and 150mph in the 540 was just epic. Amazingly the mpg for the entire 1200 mile trip was high 20's.
Can't wait to go back when I've got something capable of 200mph...
PILCH 23 said:
Perhaps the UK should have a few sections of de-restricted motorway as a two year trial. If it was applied to low density sections on a variable basis then I doubt that the accident rates would change. Potential sections could be the M62 east of the A1, the M69 and the M180.
Why would you want to get to Grimsby that quickly!?!?Motorrad said:
The Autobahn isn't the idyll it's being made out here. Sure it's better than some UK motorways in stretches but what always amuses and annoys me is the pricks who come barreling upto you, lights flashing, when you're sat behind a slow moving vehicle in lane 2, brake at the last minute then sit on your bumper looking angry.
Which is called 'Nötigung' and looked upon very sternly by plod and courts alike. Especially since a Mercedes test driver came barreling upon a Kia containing a young mother and child which went off the road and into a tree, killing both occupants, as a result. I find the Germans have still some common sense left - do something naughty that doesn't really endanger or greatly inconvenience anyone and you'll get a gentle reminder of the rules, maybe accompanied by a small fine to make sure it sticks; do something stupid, reckless or criminal and you can count on the full weight of thewir justice system being applied.
MrTickle said:
JulesB said:
Much worse things than yobbo's maxing out their saxo's on the motorway, wind yer neck in!
says the ex saxo owner 
Riggers said:
PaulMoor said:
Riggers said:
In short, you simply don't get some sanctimonious [expletive deleted] crawling past somebody in the outside lane at 70.5mph and refusing to move over because 'they're doing more than the speed limit anyway so I don't see why anybody should want to go any faster'. And if that makes me sound like the sort of chap who sits two inches from the car in front, then I don't intend it to - it's just ruddy irritating when you want to make progress.
Realy not helping the argument with this. The amount of time I get some impatiant t****r hammering up behind trying to bully me out of the way because I'm doing 70 going past two lorrys in lane 1 and 2. Why should someone not be aloud in to lane 3 because they stick to the speedlimit? Its not about being sanctimonious, it's about having every legal right to be there. I have no sympathy for people who sit in a lane and don't pull over, but complaining about people wanting to overtake someone doing under the speedlimit? That is what motorways are for.You're absolutely right about everybody (with a legal right to be there) having, well, a right to be there. It's just that there are a lot of people who stay in lane three when they don't need to be there. In Germany, (and France and Italy and Spain for that matter) people actually move back in once they have overtaken!
Driving in Germany, and lots of other parts of Europe, is much much easier, and much more pleasant than in England, because: if you are travelling fast enough in lane 3, or even lane 2 in light traffic, noone will get in your way; people overtake and pull back into the correct lane immediately. It's not uncommon to find a whole lot of traffic bumper to bumper on the inside lane at the speed limit and the other two lanes totally empty.
If people actually learned how to drive, and sorted out this ONE aspect of driving, I suspect the whole speed limits/cameras/SPECS situation in the UK would be totally different.
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