RE: SOTW: Audi A6 Avant
Discussion
Fox- said:
The Audi only LOOKS sensible. There is nothing sensible about buying a £1000 2.7 litre Twin Turbo V6 AWD car on which even a cambelt change is an engine out job. It's a proper extra strength brave pills endeavour!
^^^ how wrong are you???? 
engine out to change a timing belt.... have you even owned one of these before?? Obviously not! As it certainly isn't an engine out job to do it! Got to love this forum where people post up info on cars that they know heehaw about and have never owned!!!!!
gmackay2 said:
^^^ how wrong are you???? engine out to change a timing belt.... have you even owned one of these before?? Obviously not! As it certainly isn't an engine out job to do it!
Every time we have a thread on this engine its pointed out that its a pig of a job? I'm I'm wrong then fair enough but where were you in the countless other threads about S4's and A6 V6 TT's we've had where this was explained? engine out to change a timing belt.... have you even owned one of these before?? Obviously not! As it certainly isn't an engine out job to do it! Perhaps its just the entire front end of the car that needs removing, either way its expensive.
BeirutTaxi said:
Contigo said:
Over to you to find a better one then.
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C308165http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C294665
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C307202
I'll dig out some more tomorrow.
BeirutTaxi said:
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C308165
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C294665
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C307202
I'll dig out some more tomorrow.
Great, an underpowered pseudo-Porsche, a front wheel drive SAAB with rotten doors and a gutless 156. http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C294665
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C307202
I'll dig out some more tomorrow.
I think I'd take the twin turbo lard-arse over any of those.
Fox- said:
Perhaps its just the entire front end of the car that needs removing, either way its expensive.
Most of it, I think.http://www.audiworld.com/tech/eng63.shtml
Fox- said:
I don't beleive this is true. There is no disctinction between the requirements to declare between Cat C and Cat D. The regulations are the same. I beleive that a private seller need not declare it - unless asked, where he must answer honestly, but that a trade seller must mention it.
It's cobblers...Neither a private nor a trade seller must mention a car's write-off history in an ad or even on the car itself - nor are they obliged to even check it if they don't want to (obviously almost every trader DOES check it and most private sellers will know anyway).
Trade Sellers must, if asked, state any Category they're aware of or that they have no idea/have not checked (one or the other - they cannot say "I've checked but I'm not telling")
If they make a statement of "no category" and that later proves to be untrue (and you can prove they said it - e.g. you got it written onto the bill of sale) then they are liable (even if the category hadn't been registered at the time you ask - which does happen).
If you don't ask - you have no comeback against Cat C or D (which are effectively the same thing anyway - there's no meaningful distinction between the 2). You DO still have comeback against outstanding finance tho - because that implies the car was not theirs to sell in the first place.
Private Sellers - the whole issue of buying a car privately is basically "buyer beware" - if you want to know something, check it yourself because you have almost zero comeback unless it transpires you were sold a car made of cake or a banana with a hat on instead of an actual car...
p.s. don't get too stressed about Cat C/Ds on cheap cars - if you check the car over and it's straight, where's the problem again? Most cars get knocked at some point - very few are categoried (e.g. loads of non-Cat cars are in worse nick that Cat'd ones).
Edited by 405dogvan on Saturday 16th June 13:42
405dogvan said:
It's cobblers...
Neither a private nor a trade seller must mention a car's write-off history in an ad or even on the car itself
Private seller no, but I was under the impression that a professional trader has a fiduciary duty towards a non-expert private purchaser. As a result, material facts about the vehicle must be disclosed, of which Category C/D status is one? Is that not the case?Neither a private nor a trade seller must mention a car's write-off history in an ad or even on the car itself
Fox- said:
Private seller no, but I was under the impression that a professional trader has a fiduciary duty towards a non-expert private purchaser. As a result, material facts about the vehicle must be disclosed, of which Category C/D status is one? Is that not the case?
Unless it's changed in the last 2 years, my understanding then (trade selling cars) was that we only have to tell you IF YOU ASK and we can answer that question with a "we have not checked it - we do not know" (it makes no sense to say that - but it is an option).You may feel that it's worth checking yourself anyway (and there are cheap ways of doing it these days) - but it's still worth asking the seller because the real nasty one is where the category isn't recorded at the time of sale but then appears shortly thereafter. This is a bit of a nightmare for everyone concerned - if the dealer did a check and got a 'Clear' then they're considered responsible for the category appearing later BUT if they didn't check it then they aren't!
Edited by 405dogvan on Saturday 16th June 15:49
It's never a nice feeling when a car you paid loads of money for a few years ago makes it onto SOTW. Unfortunately big engined 4WD petrol automatics that aren't 4X4s are so out of fashion at the moment.
We've owned our 2.7T for 5 years and 30,000 miles. Unlike the car in the feature it's the later 250bhp model and it's an auto.
Good things: Loads of room, very smooth engine and autobox, quickish, fairly refined, great Bose stereo, very secure handling, grip in greasy, muddy or even snowy conditions on normal tyres
Bad things: Sports suspension too jiggly around town but great at speed, fuel economy (29 at very best, 17 at worst). It runs on cheaper 95 unleaded though.
Running costs aren't cheap but not too bad. The cambelt and ancilliaries cost £550 from a decent specialist. Front discs and pads cost £400 fitted. Rears were £250.
Very little has gone wrong as far as I can remember. Worn front suspension links were replaced costing £500. A rear parking sensor went. A cambelt position sensor went. Front wiper spindle siezed cost £200ish. A few other minor things but no breakdowns or anything close.
We've owned a few 4 cylinder Audis before and I never really wanted to keep them for long but the moment I pulled away in the 2.7T I knew I had to have it. I would have preferred the V8 because of the engine sound and the wider wheel arches but you do pay for that privelige in many ways.
We've owned our 2.7T for 5 years and 30,000 miles. Unlike the car in the feature it's the later 250bhp model and it's an auto.
Good things: Loads of room, very smooth engine and autobox, quickish, fairly refined, great Bose stereo, very secure handling, grip in greasy, muddy or even snowy conditions on normal tyres
Bad things: Sports suspension too jiggly around town but great at speed, fuel economy (29 at very best, 17 at worst). It runs on cheaper 95 unleaded though.
Running costs aren't cheap but not too bad. The cambelt and ancilliaries cost £550 from a decent specialist. Front discs and pads cost £400 fitted. Rears were £250.
Very little has gone wrong as far as I can remember. Worn front suspension links were replaced costing £500. A rear parking sensor went. A cambelt position sensor went. Front wiper spindle siezed cost £200ish. A few other minor things but no breakdowns or anything close.
We've owned a few 4 cylinder Audis before and I never really wanted to keep them for long but the moment I pulled away in the 2.7T I knew I had to have it. I would have preferred the V8 because of the engine sound and the wider wheel arches but you do pay for that privelige in many ways.
We've got one of these- manual, V6 biturbo, 4WD, huge load lugger, very comfortable, load of grip, copes very well in snow...whats not to like?
The only downside - is fuel economy (as others have said) - av 24-26, 29 on a long motorway run if your lucky (once achieved 40mpg - but that was 120 miles motorway at 55mph as I was low on fuel with no money and had to get home!!)..
Plus maintenance/service costs - it is an expensive car to keep running- its heavy, stuff wears out, so it costs to keep in good nick..
But its very capable car, and far quicker and more capable than a 2tonne estate without an RS, S, AMG or M badge deserves to be....
The only downside - is fuel economy (as others have said) - av 24-26, 29 on a long motorway run if your lucky (once achieved 40mpg - but that was 120 miles motorway at 55mph as I was low on fuel with no money and had to get home!!)..
Plus maintenance/service costs - it is an expensive car to keep running- its heavy, stuff wears out, so it costs to keep in good nick..
But its very capable car, and far quicker and more capable than a 2tonne estate without an RS, S, AMG or M badge deserves to be....
BigTom85 said:
Assuming this is the same as the B5 Passat setup, the whole front end slides forward into a "service position" giving loads of access.
Yes it is very similar.One thing to note here is that when you do have the cambelt changed please make sure that the garage do the water pump, belt and thermostat whilst it's all dismantled. The reason is that main dealers only do the belt unless asked and I've had thermostats fail (very low cost item) and it makes a cheap part become a very expensive labour job.
tbc said:
I would never buy a car that had one of those dog cage grills behind the back seat and the boot
just on principle that the boot probably stinks of dog
and has seen more than a fair load of dog s
t in it's time
I agree with your point but that's actually the factory load net, it deploys from a little flap behind the rear headrests and hooks onto catches at the roof, then stows itself away and completely out of sight when you don't want it any more - another little touch that makes me love ours just on principle that the boot probably stinks of dog
and has seen more than a fair load of dog s
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