Golf TDI, 200+BHP Mods
Discussion
A remap, no other mods will see 200hp with any 16v FIAT 1.9JTD engine. That's Alfa 156, 159, Fiat Bravo/Brava/Chroma, Vauxhall Astra/Vectra, Saab 93.
I saw 220hp and 340lbft out of my 1.9-150 Astra, with just a tuning box.
I'm seeing '04 156 1.9JTDm for £2k locally. £200 for a remap or tuning box, instant 200hp, no farting about.
I saw 220hp and 340lbft out of my 1.9-150 Astra, with just a tuning box.
I'm seeing '04 156 1.9JTDm for £2k locally. £200 for a remap or tuning box, instant 200hp, no farting about.
Edited by FoundOnRoadside on Monday 25th June 15:05
JCKST1 said:
Cause i cant find any others cars which are 200bhp, diesel and around £2.5-£3k. Otherwise i would!
As someone else suggested, a BMW 330d can be had for £3k which would be a much nicer car. Also, is diesel a requirement just for the mpg or for some other reason? If 40mpg and 168bhp/ton are sufficient then I would recommend (bias alert) a Clio 182. It would handle much better than a golf diesel and has less expensive things to go bang than a modified tdi.
FoundOnRoadside said:
A remap, no other mods will see 200hp with any 16v FIAT 1.9JTD engine. That's Alfa 156, 159, Fiat Bravo/Brava/Chroma, Vauxhall Astra/Vectra, Saab 93.
I saw 220hp and 340lbft out of my 1.9-150 Astra, with just a tuning box.
I think you'll find the rolling road was lieing to you I saw 220hp and 340lbft out of my 1.9-150 Astra, with just a tuning box.
JCKST1 said:
Well its already got a stainless back box so i would take the exhaust off and get the cat and silencer cut out and pipe welded straight through.
Fmic would cost me about £150ish
Remap £150
PD150 Turbo Approx £200?
If i get it to 195/200 like people are saying hopefully the clutch will be OK
A FMIC that is of any use will cost quite a lot more than that.Fmic would cost me about £150ish
Remap £150
PD150 Turbo Approx £200?
If i get it to 195/200 like people are saying hopefully the clutch will be OK
De-cat won't cost much ~£50 as you can sell the cat on
I wouldn't go near my car with a £150 remap. £400 is more like it.
A used turbo around £200 I'd expect yes.
Also, the clutch will not take the torque, so you'll need a Sachs clutch.
Your realisticly looking at £1000+ to get an extra 30hp.
JCKST1 said:
Would love a bmw or cars like a 182 its just insurance are raping me as it is. BMW repair bills are too expensive, and i need a diesel (previous post, i do 10-15k a year and im driving to spain and back in a couple of weeks.)
Fair enough but it surprises me that insurance for the golf would be cheaper with all those mods assuming you declare them 
FoundOnRoadside said:
StottyZr said:
I think you'll find the rolling road was lieing to you
Two rolling roads on different occasions? 
I later had the car remapped, and it settled at 200hp and 310lbft.
Did you have it dyno'd at a rolling road day? So you could compare to other cars and see if they were pulling close to the figures they should have been.
And if you don't mind me asking, at which RR? I know an Evo that pulled 400+ consistanty at a RR, went to RS tuning and pulled 360. I know which figure I'd be guessing is more accurate.
chris182 said:
Also, is diesel a requirement just for the mpg or for some other reason? If 40mpg and 168bhp/ton are sufficient then I would recommend (bias alert) a Clio 182. It would handle much better than a golf diesel and has less expensive things to go bang than a modified tdi.
As much as I love the clios (I'm on my 2nd), you'll only get 40 MPG on a long run, and / or if you drive like my dad, and if you need a cambelt (like I do), that'll be £600+ if you want to do it properly.Agreed though, it's a better steer than a mk4 Golf TDI any day of any week.
StottyZr said:
I think you'll understand why I'm doubting you. 150hp-220hp from a tuning box is unheard of.
Did you have it dyno'd at a rolling road day? So you could compare to other cars and see if they were pulling close to the figures they should have been.
And if you don't mind me asking, at which RR? I know an Evo that pulled 400+ consistanty at a RR, went to RS tuning and pulled 360. I know which figure I'd be guessing is more accurate.
With the remap, it pulled 200hp/310lbft, identical to 4 other 1.9-150s with the same map, at a RR day. I trust that figure. Dyno is AI Autosport in N. Ireland.Did you have it dyno'd at a rolling road day? So you could compare to other cars and see if they were pulling close to the figures they should have been.
And if you don't mind me asking, at which RR? I know an Evo that pulled 400+ consistanty at a RR, went to RS tuning and pulled 360. I know which figure I'd be guessing is more accurate.
The figure with the box was on a different RR, so nothing to compare it to. However, with the box the car definitely went better, gave a very PD like torque surge along with lots of smoke. It also slipped the clutch. Hence my reason for going to get a remap and returning the box. It FELT like it had more power with the box than the remap, so I'm not sure I'm willing to dismiss the figures as totally wrong. Dyno: DS Autos, Antrim, N. Ireland.
The box was one supplied by DTUK, and if you have a wee look around I think you'll find plenty of folks getting more than 200hp with their boxes.
I'm not sure what else to say other than that.
FoundOnRoadside said:
StottyZr said:
I think you'll understand why I'm doubting you. 150hp-220hp from a tuning box is unheard of.
Did you have it dyno'd at a rolling road day? So you could compare to other cars and see if they were pulling close to the figures they should have been.
And if you don't mind me asking, at which RR? I know an Evo that pulled 400+ consistanty at a RR, went to RS tuning and pulled 360. I know which figure I'd be guessing is more accurate.
With the remap, it pulled 200hp/310lbft, identical to 4 other 1.9-150s with the same map, at a RR day. I trust that figure. Dyno is AI Autosport in N. Ireland.Did you have it dyno'd at a rolling road day? So you could compare to other cars and see if they were pulling close to the figures they should have been.
And if you don't mind me asking, at which RR? I know an Evo that pulled 400+ consistanty at a RR, went to RS tuning and pulled 360. I know which figure I'd be guessing is more accurate.
The figure with the box was on a different RR, so nothing to compare it to. However, with the box the car definitely went better, gave a very PD like torque surge along with lots of smoke. It also slipped the clutch. Hence my reason for going to get a remap and returning the box. It FELT like it had more power with the box than the remap, so I'm not sure I'm willing to dismiss the figures as totally wrong. Dyno: DS Autos, Antrim, N. Ireland.
The box was one supplied by DTUK, and if you have a wee look around I think you'll find plenty of folks getting more than 200hp with their boxes.
I'm not sure what else to say other than that.
Were the figures SAE/DIN corrected or just bare STD figures. Also are we talking imperial or metric HP units?
JCKST1 said:
Well its already got a stainless back box so i would take the exhaust off and get the cat and silencer cut out and pipe welded straight through.
Fmic would cost me about £150ish
Remap £150
PD150 Turbo Approx £200?
If i get it to 195/200 like people are saying hopefully the clutch will be OK
Have you looked at prices? I looked for my PD130 Bora and couldn't find one (new) for less than about £800. (That was Forge Motorsport FMIC, Samco pipes and clamps). I don't know what eBay specials are out there but, tbh, I wouldnt want one. Fmic would cost me about £150ish
Remap £150
PD150 Turbo Approx £200?
If i get it to 195/200 like people are saying hopefully the clutch will be OK
Remap from Revotec is £299
200BHP can be done. I think someone previously mentions TDI Furby with his, very smart, Fabia VRS. But he has spent a LOT of money on it! Including the likes of uprated injectors etc...
Why 200BHP? If you go down the line of getting an OE PD150 SMIC, a decent panel filter, decat, EGR Delete Kit and remap it to suit the mods, should be looking at 170-180 Horses with a s
tload of torque!You WILL need a new clutch though... sooner rather than later anyway
ETA - Intercooler Kit for Mk4 Golf PD130 from JBS
Edited by Mikeyplum on Monday 25th June 15:43
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