Cars you didn't know existed...
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Dapster said:
jamiebae said:
www.autoscout24.ch/5240967
It would appear so, a 260ps 4.0 V8 diesel E Class, I bet the torque is pretty impressive!
At the other end of the scale, a 4 cyl 2l S Class (not in the UK) with cloth seats!It would appear so, a 260ps 4.0 V8 diesel E Class, I bet the torque is pretty impressive!
Edited by Dapster on Monday 20th November 23:40
According to Autocar
Top speed: 149mph; 0-60mph: 8.2sec; Economy: 49.6mpg (combined); CO2: 149g/km; Kerb weight: 1895kg; Engine: 4 cyls, 2143cc, turbodiesel; Power: 201bhp at 4200rpm; Torque: 368lb ft at 1600rpm; Gearbox: 7-spd automatic
matrignano said:
I don't get that S Class... cloth seats but leather dash? 
Often in Europe the base model really is just that and the expectation is that buyers add extras on top. In this case I assume the leather dash is standard as the cost of making two different mouldings isn't viable but there is a cloth seat option which 99.9% of buyers upgrade to leather.
jamiebae said:
www.autoscout24.ch/5240967
It would appear so, a 260ps 4.0 V8 diesel E Class, I bet the torque is pretty impressive!
560 Nm and all aluminium too; BMW's 3.9 V8 chucked out similar power and more torque but used a cast iron block with aluminium heads. We didn't recieve that either. It would appear so, a 260ps 4.0 V8 diesel E Class, I bet the torque is pretty impressive!
OM628 DE 40
3996cc 32v V8
260 PS @ 4000 rpm
560 Nm @ 1700-2600 rpm
M67TUD40
3901cc 32v V8
258 PS @ 4000 rpm
600 Nm @ 1900-2500 rpm
jamiebae said:
matrignano said:
I don't get that S Class... cloth seats but leather dash?
Often in Europe the base model really is just that and the expectation is that buyers add extras on top. In this case I assume the leather dash is standard as the cost of making two different mouldings isn't viable but there is a cloth seat option which 99.9% of buyers upgrade to leather.These were normally Audis, BMWs, Mercs (and invariably diesel for tax reasons)
99% had no leather, If I remember correctly it's because it wasn't seen as a requirement the way it is over here so cloth was the norm and adding it as an option cost a fortune (and increased car tax)
talksthetorque said:
A Cadillac BLS, based on a 9-3 I think.
Those two exhausts, one each side really hint at the power available from the 1.9 Diesel engine.....
Semi interesting wikipedia article I found about the BLS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_BLSThose two exhausts, one each side really hint at the power available from the 1.9 Diesel engine.....
Ha ha, I was going to say that it had those twin exhausts for the inevitable V8 version they'd have in the USA but on checking that factoid and finding that wikipedia article it became apparant that not only was there never a V8, the BLS wasn't even sold in the USA!
rodericb said:
talksthetorque said:
A Cadillac BLS, based on a 9-3 I think.
Those two exhausts, one each side really hint at the power available from the 1.9 Diesel engine.....
Semi interesting wikipedia article I found about the BLS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_BLSThose two exhausts, one each side really hint at the power available from the 1.9 Diesel engine.....
Ha ha, I was going to say that it had those twin exhausts for the inevitable V8 version they'd have in the USA but on checking that factoid and finding that wikipedia article it became apparant that not only was there never a V8, the BLS wasn't even sold in the USA!
talksthetorque said:
A Cadillac BLS, based on a 9-3 I think.
Those two exhausts, one each side really hint at the power available from the 1.9 Diesel engine.....
Yes. And I owned a diesel saloon once.Those two exhausts, one each side really hint at the power available from the 1.9 Diesel engine.....
It was almost identical to Saab 9-3's I'd driven, right down to the handbrake that traps your thumb if you're not careful. Apart from a few logos and a rectangular chintzy click that would have looked at home in an 80's Ratners catalogue, it was all Saab. The suspension was softer but otherwise all was identical.
The 1.9 diesel was alright and poky enough, but hardly a beast.
I bought mine when all the Cadillac UK staff cars were being sold off at two years old, and mine was barely run in. For £6k, it was a bargain when I needed a saloon for long distance commutes.
I sold it after two years and lost only £1000 in that time. Interestingly, several Saab garages refused to supply spare parts after GM split from Saab and for a few weeks, a Cadillac garage was scavenging parts off its demo cars to keep customers on the road. Can't criticise their efforts. When the fuss died down, it remained a sensible car in spite of its strange bodywork.
But exotic? About as much as a Cornish pasty. Decent enough commuter car though.
blearyeyedboy said:
talksthetorque said:
A Cadillac BLS, based on a 9-3 I think.
Those two exhausts, one each side really hint at the power available from the 1.9 Diesel engine.....
Yes. And I owned a diesel saloon once.Those two exhausts, one each side really hint at the power available from the 1.9 Diesel engine.....
It was almost identical to Saab 9-3's I'd driven, right down to the handbrake that traps your thumb if you're not careful. Apart from a few logos and a rectangular chintzy click that would have looked at home in an 80's Ratners catalogue, it was all Saab. The suspension was softer but otherwise all was identical.
The 1.9 diesel was alright and poky enough, but hardly a beast.
I bought mine when all the Cadillac UK staff cars were being sold off at two years old, and mine was barely run in. For £6k, it was a bargain when I needed a saloon for long distance commutes.
I sold it after two years and lost only £1000 in that time. Interestingly, several Saab garages refused to supply spare parts after GM split from Saab and for a few weeks, a Cadillac garage was scavenging parts off its demo cars to keep customers on the road. Can't criticise their efforts. When the fuss died down, it remained a sensible car in spite of its strange bodywork.
But exotic? About as much as a Cornish pasty. Decent enough commuter car though.
LuS1fer said:
Wasn't there an issue because Cadillac decided to bespoke the software and when Bauer Millett went tits up, you can no longer diagnose faults? I'm sure I read something like ... probably here...
Probably from me on here. There can't be that many former BLS owners who regularly post here.What you say was the official line I was spun, but I've spoken to other people since who say theirs plugged straight in to a Saab dealer. I'm afraid I don't really know the truth of it.
Certainly, I know that when I needed specific hardware that was pure Saab (e.g., a tilt sensor for the stability control), it was magically unavailable. There were a lot of politics going on at the time; I've seen photos of Saab workers crushing a Cadillac BLS when GM left, and Trollhätten had very little goodwill for Cadillac customers from what I can determine.
It was astonishing how GM left owners in the lurch. The dealers looked after me but I was told that "Cadillac no longer exists in the UK" when I asked for manufacturer assistance, despite other obvious GM brands still existing. It was like dealing with some dodgy builder who phoenixes.
Manufacturer shenanigans aside, it was an OK car whose party trick was to swallow 500 mile journeys with ease, á la Volvo S60 D5. Similarly good seats too.
DeolTheBeast said:
I saw earlier in the week....
a MK7 Golf....Alltrack (estate) on the outskirts of Congleton (going towards Buxton)
What a strange thing, the market must be absolutely tiny for such a vehicle
Think of it as a modern day passat 4motion. They're still fetching strong money for an old car. I agree pretty rare though.a MK7 Golf....Alltrack (estate) on the outskirts of Congleton (going towards Buxton)
What a strange thing, the market must be absolutely tiny for such a vehicle
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