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Since moving to Germany 5 years ago now i have grown accustomed to seeing cars that we never get to see in the UK. I am into Classic Fords and they never saw the Cortina here...At all. Instead they had a Taunus. Some looked similar to Cortinas (the Mk3 was one) but many where wildly different. Quite a few BMWs that never reached Britains shores as the famous Z1. The current(ish) Lancia Deltas, Thema and Flavia (Fiat Bravo, Chrysler 300C and Chrysler Sebring respectively) and i am not 100% sure if the GLK is available in the UK (Common as dog chod here). Also commuting on the A5 (To Frankfurt from the East) i regularly see test mules disguised and hurtling down the outside lanes (especially Opels as they are near Frankfurt). Its fun spotting new releases months before announcement. I also work in the auto industry so have seen some interesting cars yet to be announced. But i am still amazed at Ford Europes decision for a completely seperate mid sized family car int eh 60s and 70s with only a few hundred miles between countries. The Taunus also ran Pinto engines long before Ford UK ditched the Crossflow.
Dapster said:
GTI16V said:
BMW 767il "Goldfisch" An E32 7 Series with a 6.7 V16 motor and the rad in the boot.
Came with a 6 speed manual box as well
https://oppositelock.kinja.com/the-16-cylinder-bmw...
It's easy to miss from the top photo, the "gills" of the 767 that earned it the "Goldfisch" nicknameCame with a 6 speed manual box as well
https://oppositelock.kinja.com/the-16-cylinder-bmw...
Edited by GTI16V on Saturday 17th November 10:16
Manual box
Greg the Fish said:
Believed to be the test bed for the proposed V16 engine that was due to go in the, then new, Phantom. The working Phantom V16 now owned by Rowan Atkinson.
Developed over 1987/1988, the engine was there to give BMW engineers their head - their 'look at what we can do' moment. The engine was canned because BMW didn't want to get in to a power war/arms race (ironic!). Based on the SOHC M70 V12, the engine developed 300 kW (408 PS; 402 bhp) and 615 Nm (454 lb ft) - similar to Mercedes-Benz's 6.0-litre V12 launched a few years later in 1992.The 6.7-litre V16 was rumoured to be trialled in Mulsanne in the 80s. How true this is, I do not know.
The N73B68 V12 petrol engine shares its internal dimensions (92.0 x 84.6) with the 9.0-litre (8999cc) V16 developed for the Phantom VII.
PS: long shot, but are you related to 'Mrs Fish'?
richb77 said:
But I am still amazed at Ford Europe's decision for a completely separate mid sized family car in the 60s and 70s with only a few hundred miles between countries.The Taunus also ran Pinto engines long before Ford UK ditched the Crossflow.
Pre Mk III Cortina, when the two shared common undepinnings, the Taunus used the V4 engine in capacities up to 1.7. The 2.0, 2.3 and 2.6 were V6 engines.The Mk III Cortina kept the Kent ohv crossflow engine in 1.3 and 1.6 where the Taunus used the small 1.3 and 1.6 Pintos.
Confusingly, the Cortina got the 2.0 Pinto for it's upper end models but the Taunus continued using the 2.0 and 2.3 V6 engines.
It was not until 1976 and the advent of the "Mk 4 Cortina" shape that the Taunus got the 2.0 Pinto and while the Taunus continued to offer the 2.3 V6, it was actually less powerful than the Pinto 2.0.
In Mk III Cortina form, Ford made do with the generic swoopy Mk II shape while the Taunus had a more conservative saloon but offered a separate coupe shape.
So much for commonality...they'd never do it now.
One more thing I hadn't realised is that earlier Taunus' were actually front wheel drive before becoming RWD.
Edited by LuS1fer on Monday 19th November 18:18
67Dino said:
This is why I love Pininfarina. Their designs just look somehow ‘right’. What a great looking car, never seen it before either.
In the interest of balance ( not something you see very often on PH):I think it looks like a saloon that has had the glasshouse shunted back about 18 inches. Minging.
When my dad used to own Volvos in the early 80s i remembered waiting with him in the showroom for the car to be serviced and vaguely remembered a biiiiig volvo brochure. Just had a sniff round and I think I found it.
The 264 TE ( Top Executive - which sounds a bit of a JDM name now) based on a 264 butstretched.
20 cm longer than the current a8, which can be completely covered by that front bumper and the same weight as a 2006 xk8 cabrio
https://www.volvoclub.org.uk/pdf/brochures/264TE-B...
The 264 TE ( Top Executive - which sounds a bit of a JDM name now) based on a 264 butstretched.
20 cm longer than the current a8, which can be completely covered by that front bumper and the same weight as a 2006 xk8 cabrio
https://www.volvoclub.org.uk/pdf/brochures/264TE-B...
AppleJuice said:
Developed over 1987/1988, the engine was there to give BMW engineers their head - their 'look at what we can do' moment. The engine was canned because BMW didn't want to get in to a power war/arms race (ironic!). Based on the SOHC M70 V12, the engine developed 300 kW (408 PS; 402 bhp) and 615 Nm (454 lb ft) - similar to Mercedes-Benz's 6.0-litre V12 launched a few years later in 1992.
The 6.7-litre V16 was rumoured to be trialled in Mulsanne in the 80s. How true this is, I do not know.
The N73B68 V12 petrol engine shares its internal dimensions (92.0 x 84.6) with the 9.0-litre (8999cc) V16 developed for the Phantom VII.
But does it sound like two V8s?The 6.7-litre V16 was rumoured to be trialled in Mulsanne in the 80s. How true this is, I do not know.
The N73B68 V12 petrol engine shares its internal dimensions (92.0 x 84.6) with the 9.0-litre (8999cc) V16 developed for the Phantom VII.
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