Stolen 1M CCTV footage

[0a]

Tuvra said:

Surely BMW could sort this by putting the ODP port somewhere more suitable?

Yes, and tell everyone to keep it a secret

[Gav147]

vonhosen said:

Olf said:

Slagathore said:

How is they are smashing glass and the alarms aren't going off? Which bit of glass is it?

Can someone answer this please? I'm confused...

That'll depend on what features the alarm has, not all have motion sensors etc.

Or you press the lock button twice which then deactivates the internal motion sensors, from the manual :

[BFG TERRANO]

Tuvra said:

Surely BMW could sort this by putting the ODP port somewhere more suitable?

Good point. Somewhere centre to the alarm sensors would make sense. Also did a bare finger not touch the glass over one of the cameras? I hope its been screened for prints?

[BigBen]

0a said:

Tuvra said:

Surely BMW could sort this by putting the ODP port somewhere more suitable?

Yes, and tell everyone to keep it a secret

Regulations for OBD ports are they should be within 12" or somesuch of the steering wheel so hiding them is a non starter. Putting them in an area covered by the alarm would be a solution.

[XDA]

What's shocked me about that CCTV footage is the fact that 2 visable CCTV cameras and security lighting doesn't put them off in the slightest!!

[TheD]

If this is happening a lot then surely someone must be buying the glass to fix it back up. I have no idea how hard it would be to check this out. The window that is being broken must be a rare order.

[BFG TERRANO]

Slagathore said:

There must be a technique they use to just break a small bit of the glass, then?

I'd have thought the whole glass would shatter under the force of a blow, so they must be doing something to isolate that small area?

Shocking, either way.

As said, you'd expect, on a premium car, all areas would be covered by the sensors, especially all around the windows. You shuldn't have to spend £43k on a car and then have to fit more security measures.


Cling film will contain the glass if applied to the window before you
smash it controlling the spread

Edited by BFG TERRANO on Sunday 1st July 23:39

[soad]

Made it look so easy

[Slagathore]

BFG TERRANO said:

Slagathore said:

There must be a technique they use to just break a small bit of the glass, then?

I'd have thought the whole glass would shatter under the force of a blow, so they must be doing something to isolate that small area?

Shocking, either way.

As said, you'd expect, on a premium car, all areas would be covered by the sensors, especially all around the windows. You shuldn't have to spend £43k on a car and then have to fit more security measures.


Cling film will contain the glass if applied to the window before you
smash it controlling the spread

Edited by BFG TERRANO on Sunday 1st July 23:39

Ah, of course.

And if you know what car you're going after, you could take a pre-cut sheet of sticker paper type stuff that is already shaped.

Crazy! I can't believe BMW have done nothing about a clear flaw in the alarm system.

[rpguk]

Shocking. This video must mark a turning point in this saga.

And these guys are not stupid, this is a well crafted routine (they even have a uniform )

I'm guessing that this is going to be an expensive recall for BMW at some point.

[555 Paul]

Are we returning to the days where a car has to have a separate alarm system and immobiliser? I always thought that this keyless entry and touch key system was flawed.

I don't know much about the latest BMW's but I guess they don't have a proper cut metal key like my E46? Programming a key to the alarm like mine is fine but once they also have a key cut or indeed the keyless/touch system you're asking for trouble!

What was wrong with a real key and a decent alarm and immobiliser?

[whoami]

Tuvra said:

Surely BMW could sort this by putting the ODP port somewhere more suitable?

Is it just BMW who are exposed here?

[Tuvra]

whoami said:

Tuvra said:

Surely BMW could sort this by putting the ODP port somewhere more suitable?

Is it just BMW who are exposed here?

Well from what I gather the guys are sticking their arm down a "black spot" of the alarm, basically keeping their arm tight to the dash. Moving the port somewhere which makes it impossible to reach from outside the car would make sense, even moving it to the left of the steering wheel would probably make it harder/impossible.

[Roadrunner23]

kmpowell said:

They broke the glass and ensured the remains didn't enter the alarm trigger zone. They also didn't open the door before the ODB port was used to program the clone key and unset the alarm. The ODB port is accessible by keeping your arm as close as posible to the dash, ensuring the alarm will not go off.

In short, BMW alarms have a blind spot that is being exploited in these two combined ways. Then along with the ODB port key programmer, means the theft is easy.

Edited by kmpowell on Sunday 1st July 23:02

Edited by kmpowell on Sunday 1st July 23:03

Dont these alarms also monitor pressure change, I would of thought soon as the window broke the pressure change would of triggered the alarm.

[Olf]

Roadrunner23 said:

Dont these alarms also monitor pressure change, I would of thought soon as the window broke the pressure change would of triggered the alarm.

That's what I thought... all very peculiar...

[Spuggy]

This is one of my worst fears... I have just been online and bought http://www.amazon.co.uk/StopLock-Thatcham-Approved...

Hopefully will keep them away from my M5...

[JaiAE86]

I wouldn't be able to cope if I was in your position. Such a shame.

What do thieves usually do with stolen cars?

[GC8]

The solution would appear to be the physical disabling the OBD port. Allowing the port to remain live without requiring that a validated key is present, enabling the coding of a replacement key is a rather schoolboy error on BMWs part.

[SSBB]

JaiAE86 said:

I wouldn't be able to cope if I was in your position. Such a shame.

What do thieves usually do with stolen cars?

so what, you would just top yourself, or have a nervous breakdown?

[Strawman]

JaiAE86 said:

What do thieves usually do with stolen cars?

Stolen to order (sort of) so the thieves know someone who will buy the car off them and what sort of cars they will pay the most for. Older cars are broken for parts, newer cars are exported to somewhere outside Europe.