Re: 918 Spyder shows off Martini livery
Discussion
Transmitter Man said:
I like the Martini colours but prefer 20 year old 'street legal' Porsche technology that is both quicker and faster than this 918:
At least one PHer owns one.
Phil
This trumps the new car on looks by a significant distance. At least one PHer owns one.
Phil
What kind of power did these have and how much are they going for today?
405dogvan said:
Transmitter Man said:
both quicker and faster
and a new PH Meme is born...Very Very almost lorry
Custard Test
Both quicker and faster!
And the 962s and 956s were gorgeous
boxerTen said:
+1
Its apparently 1490kg with batteries and electric motors. It would be rather interesting to know what its mass is without them.
With performance in the 458/MP4-12C region (except for those few minutes the batteries provide a boost) I can't see a £600k price making sense unless the run is quite limited.
The target weight for this car is "under 1800kg". The 1450kg figure is for the mp4-12c.Its apparently 1490kg with batteries and electric motors. It would be rather interesting to know what its mass is without them.
With performance in the 458/MP4-12C region (except for those few minutes the batteries provide a boost) I can't see a £600k price making sense unless the run is quite limited.
Here is a dodgy phone video of three spiders in the move. The first one looks like the martini car in this news piece:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jNYEjcHlNE&fea...
Carl_Docklands said:
Here is a dodgy phone video of three spiders in the move. The first one looks like the martini car in this news piece:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jNYEjcHlNE&fea...
Could be, though 1st car is running No 17 and 3rd No 10 as opposed to the 23 of this carhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jNYEjcHlNE&fea...
Edited by freedman on Wednesday 1st August 11:21
Transmitter Man said:
I like the Martini colours but prefer 20 year old 'street legal' Porsche technology that is both quicker and faster than this 918:
At least one PHer owns one.
Phil
Lucky PHer,,,, lucky, lucky PHer,,,At least one PHer owns one.
Phil
Proper car vs Trinket
Its a no contest,
The old car Top Trumps all modern, boredom inducing super-cars.
The 20 year old is honest, effortlessly fast and rewarding.
The new car is not.
Its just another cynical "do it all", a soul-less fatty churned out of the same software package every other car builder ruins their designs with. (It should be called "Passionless Auto-Auto-2012")
Its dissapointing Porsche are embracing this dull tedium approach.
I have to say that I'm surrised no one picked up on my previous post comparing the 918 to the 904?
cjb1 said:
Easy when 'spoken in jest' posts are replied to by acerbic mind numbing morons with no sense of humour!! Back to the OP, looks lovely and being a design reminicent to the Porsche 904 looks suited to that livery.
Johnboy Mac said:
arkenphel said:
HOw did this thread go from nice car -> Claimed mpg -> Raping cattle? ...
Easy! [quote=cjb1]I have to say that I'm surrised no one picked up on my previous post comparing the 918 to the 904?[quote=cjb1]
904 was the first car I thought of when I saw the 'finished' 918. As said above, it does have shades of R8 at the rear 3/4 with the blade...and definate F430 influences at the front.
Neither of which are a bad thing. I think this could be my new favorite. Cant help but think that junking the batteries and cutting the price in half would be a good idea.
904 was the first car I thought of when I saw the 'finished' 918. As said above, it does have shades of R8 at the rear 3/4 with the blade...and definate F430 influences at the front.
Neither of which are a bad thing. I think this could be my new favorite. Cant help but think that junking the batteries and cutting the price in half would be a good idea.
Should Porsche maybe offer the two options? A Petrol megga BHP and a Hybrid too?
Burnham said:
cjb1 said:
I have to say that I'm surrised no one picked up on my previous post comparing the 918 to the 904?
cjb1 said:
904 was the first car I thought of when I saw the 'finished' 918. As said above, it does have shades of R8 at the rear 3/4 with the blade...and definate F430 influences at the front.
Neither of which are a bad thing. I think this could be my new favorite. Cant help but think that junking the batteries and cutting the price in half would be a good idea.
Neither of which are a bad thing. I think this could be my new favorite. Cant help but think that junking the batteries and cutting the price in half would be a good idea.
big_rob_sydney said:
Wonderfully executed engineers wet dream.
But the whole MPG is a distraction, due to ridiculous criteria that will 99.99% not be met in real life. Whats the point.
So putting aside the desire to chase artificial, and almost universally irrelevant bureaucratic milestones, I dont really see what this car offers in performance terms above, say, a GTR, besides an astronomical price tag. In fact, I could go further, and suggest that the use of heavy batteries actually decreases the purity of its design purpose.
Don't be silly.But the whole MPG is a distraction, due to ridiculous criteria that will 99.99% not be met in real life. Whats the point.
So putting aside the desire to chase artificial, and almost universally irrelevant bureaucratic milestones, I dont really see what this car offers in performance terms above, say, a GTR, besides an astronomical price tag. In fact, I could go further, and suggest that the use of heavy batteries actually decreases the purity of its design purpose.
Surely the whole design purpose is to produce a supercar that doesn't have a thirst like Oliver Reed on a bender.
Before dismissing the economy goals why not wait to see what they actually achieve.
i have rewritten my post 3 or 4 times to try and get across my feelings for that car, but i have deleted them all because words simply do not do it justice.
A slow clap of the hands and a wry shake of the head will have to suffice, words are inadequate. that is a definitive work of mechanical and visual art...........Bravo....
Greg_D said:
i have rewritten my post 3 or 4 times to try and get across my feelings for that car, but i have deleted them all because words simply do not do it justice.
A slow clap of the hands and a wry shake of the head will have to suffice, words are inadequate. that is a definitive work of mechanical and visual art...........Bravo....
daveco said:
This trumps the new car on looks by a significant distance.
What kind of power did these have and how much are they going for today?
Dave,What kind of power did these have and how much are they going for today?
Some info from Google on the Dauer 962:
In 1994 a change in rules at Le Mans prompted Jochen Dauer to enter a modified 962 into the event. The result was not only a GT1 win, but an overall Le Mans victory. In commemoration of the event, Jochen Dauer built several road going versions of the new variation on the 962 theme. And thus it was born, the fastest road car in the world.
The Dauer LeMans was presented at the international auto fair at IAA Frankfurt in 1993.
Some specifications:
Engine 6 cylinder bi-turbo Torque 700@5000 Nm@rpm Power 730 (537) HP (kW) 0-100 km/h 2,8 s 0-200 km/h 7,3 s Weight(empty) 1080 kg Tyres F:285/30 ZR18 R: 335/30 ZR18
Above is the Dauer 962 LeMans which they broke the 400 km/h barrier with. It has a sequential five speed gearbox and is rear wheel driven. The bodywork and chassis are Kevlar carbon fibre.
Phil
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