RE: Blood Brothers: Corsa VXR vs MiTo

RE: Blood Brothers: Corsa VXR vs MiTo

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XAF

131 posts

210 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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Mito everyday for me. Residuals are stronger (certainly down the range if you compare the Distinctive / SRi spec), more individual, less chavvy, and as for reliability, the missus has had one for five months now, not a rattle squeak or blot on its copy book whatso ever. And I doubt we'd get the positive comments we do from other motorists in the Corsa. Regularly get people coming up to us in the petrol station or supermarket car-park asking about the Mito.

To those who think white isn't the best colour you're right, black everyday!

Each to their own, it just depends on what you're after. Oh - the other half previous car..... a Corsa!


Edited by XAF on Monday 13th August 22:49

G0ldfysh

3,304 posts

257 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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Bit of a concern though that Alfa Romeo only have a two car line up in the UK now.
5 year warranty or not, how long for these shores are they?

Twincam16

27,646 posts

258 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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G0ldfysh said:
Bit of a concern though that Alfa Romeo only have a two car line up in the UK now.
5 year warranty or not, how long for these shores are they?
Why does PH seem to wish death upon everything other than the Germans?

They curtailed the old platforms and they're preparing to launch new ones. There are about four or five new models in the pipeline including the Giulia saloon and estate, RWD Spider Duetto, the 4C and some kind of SUV-type thing in the mould of the old 1900 Matta.

V6Alfisti

3,305 posts

227 months

Monday 13th August 2012
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Oddball RS said:
AND................ hav to put up with Alfa delears and resales, no thanks. :-)
Living in the past a little regarding the dealers, they have largely come on leaps and bounds and thats represented in the satisfaction surveys. Above VW/Mazda/Toyota/Nissan, who would have thought that 10 years ago?






carinaman

21,287 posts

172 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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It's just me that's wondering if that's another non-metallic colour MiTo with bumpers that look a different shade? The bumpers on the Vauxhall look the same shade to me. Given body coloured plastic bumpers have been with us for over 30 years you'd think it could be done correctly by now? Are the bumpers on the MiTo painted or moulded in colour?

rm89

348 posts

177 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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FoundOnRoadside said:
MonkeyMatt said:
Which citroen or peugeot use this chassis?
None, oddly enough, considering it's a GM/Fiat chassis. silly
Wrong - the Fiat Fiorino/Citroen Nemo/Peugeot Bipper small van trio all use the Fiat Small Platform, i.e. the Corsa/Punto/MiTo chassis.

ZesPak

24,427 posts

196 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Had a MiTo as a courtesy car for 2 weeks, was only the 90bhp diesel but I found it very well finished for a small hatch. Certainly competition for the MINI, and one-up on the 500.
That said, I'd have the MiTo over the Corsa any day of the week (as I'm 27, not 18), but it'd be hard to dismiss the 500 abarth in that equasion.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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V6Alfisti said:
Oddball RS said:
AND................ hav to put up with Alfa delears and resales, no thanks. :-)
Living in the past a little regarding the dealers, they have largely come on leaps and bounds and thats represented in the satisfaction surveys. Above VW/Mazda/Toyota/Nissan, who would have thought that 10 years ago?

Something interesting to note. On that chart first to last place is only 82 points, on their 1000 pts system than means last is actually only 8.2% behind 1st.

I think it's more useful to see that almost ALL car makers are pretty equal. This industry average bullst is just a MEAN average and pretty pointless. Also when you force a ranked list you'll end up with a top and bottom. The reality is the stats say they are far far closer.

900T-R

20,404 posts

257 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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tosh.brice said:
"Nowhere is that more obvious than on the road where they are hard to split in terms of overall performance and handling, despite taking different approaches to the problem."
erm, since this PH, could we have a bit more on this aspect of the comparison, please - surely the most important angle?
My thoughts exactly. Lots of words, little of substance. It almost sounds like both cars have been mainly spending their time at PH Towers in the car park until someone remembers they need to be brought back to their rightful owners, erm, today. Oh, shoot.
Then a week later a hapless writer is staring at a blank screen, frantically thumbing through the press material while browsing car websites for background information...



not that the above would ever happen to yours truly. Oh no, not me... hehe

LuS1fer

41,130 posts

245 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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I'd still wait for the Fiesta ST myself. I think most modern hatches are a bit ugly.

renrut

1,478 posts

205 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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court said:
TNH said:
Fair enough - as a company car driver I always look at the new P11d value though unfortunately...
...and don't forget the CO2.. The VXR attracts 7% (Nurburgring 8%) higher BIK over the Alfa. A 40% tax payer would pay £111 a month with the Alfa, £154 for the boggo VXR and an amazing £190 on the Nurburgring.
Considering how many Priuses and 318ds you see about I think this will probably be the biggest deciding factor for most. Besides thats an extra tank of fuel a month to enjoy.

masermartin

1,629 posts

177 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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LuS1fer said:
I'd still wait for the Fiesta ST myself. I think most modern hatches are a bit ugly.
Not to burst anyone's bubble, but that's not exactly a looker, either ...

LuS1fer

41,130 posts

245 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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masermartin said:
LuS1fer said:
I'd still wait for the Fiesta ST myself. I think most modern hatches are a bit ugly.
Not to burst anyone's bubble, but that's not exactly a looker, either ...
I agree but of the 3, it seems the best IMHO though I have an irrational dislike of Corsas and have never liked the MiTo styling anyway.

ZesPak

24,427 posts

196 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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LuS1fer said:
I agree but of the 3, it seems the best IMHO though I have an irrational dislike of Corsas and have never liked the MiTo styling anyway.
Opposed to the Corsa's "in your face" tuned look, and the MiTo that looks akward from the front but has some very nice styling cues and looks unmistakably like an Alfa/Italian car, the Fiesta looks properly "meh" imho. For some people that's ok, but I'd go with the MiTo/Guiletta any day over the Fiesta/Focus.

TNH

559 posts

147 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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renrut said:
court said:
TNH said:
Fair enough - as a company car driver I always look at the new P11d value though unfortunately...
...and don't forget the CO2.. The VXR attracts 7% (Nurburgring 8%) higher BIK over the Alfa. A 40% tax payer would pay £111 a month with the Alfa, £154 for the boggo VXR and an amazing £190 on the Nurburgring.
Considering how many Priuses and 318ds you see about I think this will probably be the biggest deciding factor for most. Besides thats an extra tank of fuel a month to enjoy.
Hence why I drive a Diesel beemer...

GH80

35 posts

168 months

Tuesday 21st August 2012
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Have Alpha really improved that much? I used to work in the motor trade 10 years ago, and was astonished how much warranty work there was in the Alpha workshop at any one time. Out of about 6 ramps you were lucky to see a service, all engine & gearbox failures. Same with Fiat. Vauxhall had nowhere near this problem at the time. Or is customer satisfaction really about how nice the front facing staff are? Granted there are some complete cocks in many of the workshops I visited.

Are we safe to buy an Alpha out of warranty now? Genuinely interested in this, not being cheeky or smart.

GH80

35 posts

168 months

Tuesday 21st August 2012
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Have Alfa really improved that much? I used to work in the motor trade 10 years ago, and was astonished how much warranty work there was in the Alfa workshop at any one time. Out of about 6 ramps you were lucky to see a service, all engine & gearbox failures. Same with Fiat. Vauxhall had nowhere near this problem at the time. Or is customer satisfaction really about how nice the front facing staff are? Granted there are some complete cocks in many of the workshops I visited.

Are we safe to buy an Alfa out of warranty now? Genuinely interested in this, not being cheeky or smart.

ZesPak

24,427 posts

196 months

Tuesday 21st August 2012
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GH80 said:
Have Alpha really improved that much? I used to work in the motor trade 10 years ago, and was astonished how much warranty work there was in the Alpha workshop at any one time. Out of about 6 ramps you were lucky to see a service, all engine & gearbox failures. Same with Fiat. Vauxhall had nowhere near this problem at the time. Or is customer satisfaction really about how nice the front facing staff are? Granted there are some complete cocks in many of the workshops I visited.

Are we safe to buy an Alpha out of warranty now? Genuinely interested in this, not being cheeky or smart.
I've had a couple of 159's, all virtually issue free a part from the normal stuff. My current one is on 100k miles now and going strong. The staff at the dealer however was terrible, I have it serviced by an independent.