RE: Nissan GT-R and life after Mizuno

RE: Nissan GT-R and life after Mizuno

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Nedzilla

2,439 posts

173 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
rtz62 said:
I can't afford a second hand one (yet) let alone a new one, but boy, I can't wait until I can!
The last thing I'd want is a cheap second hand one, my mates that I drive at the ring had a new gearbox last year (under warranty). Cost? Only 12 grand plus labour eek
Dont be put off by the gearbox scare stories.Yes a few have developed problems but when these have occured on cars under warranty nissan have just decided(dont ask why) to replace the entire gearbox which is usually around a £16k job.
The actual issues can be sorted by a good specialist for comparitively next to nothing.

redvictor

3,152 posts

236 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Jakdaw said:
Ah cool, so the jacks are built into the car itself, nice idea.
Yep,we have them on our car too...

I'm not a fan of jap cars but this car,for the money, is the one i'd buy for a daily driver. IMO there is nothing out there like this car for it's cost.
It's a superb piece of engineering and design and does everything you'd want a normal road car to do,and more.

glm1977

199 posts

160 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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RX7 said:
Bizarrely enough i am still struggling to come to terms with the GTR, a car that weighs (in relative terms) a lot, very fast and capable and is cheap (comparatively). I think Nissan have almost done the impossible and in what direction is it going go in its future, it surely cant get "much" quicker or cheaper so its only going to be refined surely? I know there is always room for improvement, but development is hardly the word!
agree with this - one question that pops to mind: has Nissan ever confirmed that they are not making a loss on the GTR?

Just its such an impressive piece of kit that appears to be put together in a unique way (esp the engine) that one cant help wondering if Nissan take a little loss on making each one, but the pay off being that they have a very impressive halo product to bring in other punters....

911p

2,331 posts

179 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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glm1977 said:
agree with this - one question that pops to mind: has Nissan ever confirmed that they are not making a loss on the GTR?

Just its such an impressive piece of kit that appears to be put together in a unique way (esp the engine) that one cant help wondering if Nissan take a little loss on making each one, but the pay off being that they have a very impressive halo product to bring in other punters....
I doubt they're making a loss on each car, they must have sold a huge amount around the world. Believe it or not something like a 911 Turbo S is only a few grand more to build than a Carrera (but double the price), hence the profit margins are pretty mega. The GT-R probably costs a similar amount to build but Nissan just sacrafice on a some of the profit margin. Saying that, it must have taken some sales to recoup the development costs!

Even as a Pork fan I like the GT-R being around. It's given Porsche a bit of a kick up the arse, bringing new found competition to the market.

sennastyl

33 posts

195 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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Porsche owners wasting their money & GT-R embarassing Porsche are both comments that make me laugh!!!

Nissan has been at the Nurburgring for a good 5-6 years now TRYING to beat Porsche! It's called a GT2 RS Japboys, go look it up.

When the GT-R came out the owners were not allowed to use it's top end performance otherwise the warranty would be void. Couldn't even change the wheels otherwise the warranty would be void. Were not allowed to track it otherwise GPS would pick up location and warranty would be void!!!

Porsche is built to drive to work during the weekdays and race on weekends!! So much so, they actually encourage it.

So, keep on trying Nissan I wish you luck. And to the owners that think they have a better product than Porsche, it's partially because they don't know how to drive one. A GT-R is like a Lexus, it's built for my grandmother to drive. Absolutely boring! If speed is all that matters, then they also still need to catch up to GM and its ZR-1!!

Cyder

7,045 posts

219 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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But isn't the Porsche £164k while the GTR is £75k

The Porsche is 4mph ish quicker but GTR has 20PS more and more torque.

At what point is the GT2 a triumph over the Japboys? confused

ETA, GTR 0-60 2.7secs, GT2 RS is 3.3secs. Did I mention the Porsche costs nearly £100k more?

TotalControl

8,017 posts

197 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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sennastyl said:
Porsche owners wasting their money & GT-R embarassing Porsche are both comments that make me laugh!!!

Nissan has been at the Nurburgring for a good 5-6 years now TRYING to beat Porsche! It's called a GT2 RS Japboys, go look it up.

When the GT-R came out the owners were not allowed to use it's top end performance otherwise the warranty would be void. Couldn't even change the wheels otherwise the warranty would be void. Were not allowed to track it otherwise GPS would pick up location and warranty would be void!!!

Porsche is built to drive to work during the weekdays and race on weekends!! So much so, they actually encourage it.

So, keep on trying Nissan I wish you luck. And to the owners that think they have a better product than Porsche, it's partially because they don't know how to drive one. A GT-R is like a Lexus, it's built for my grandmother to drive. Absolutely boring! If speed is all that matters, then they also still need to catch up to GM and its ZR-1!!
Porsche fanboi / badge snobbery coming out quite well here.

Shinobi

5,072 posts

189 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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sennastyl said:
Porsche owners wasting their money & GT-R embarassing Porsche are both comments that make me laugh!!!

Nissan has been at the Nurburgring for a good 5-6 years now TRYING to beat Porsche! It's called a GT2 RS Japboys, go look it up.

When the GT-R came out the owners were not allowed to use it's top end performance otherwise the warranty would be void. Couldn't even change the wheels otherwise the warranty would be void. Were not allowed to track it otherwise GPS would pick up location and warranty would be void!!!

Porsche is built to drive to work during the weekdays and race on weekends!! So much so, they actually encourage it.

So, keep on trying Nissan I wish you luck. And to the owners that think they have a better product than Porsche, it's partially because they don't know how to drive one. A GT-R is like a Lexus, it's built for my grandmother to drive. Absolutely boring! If speed is all that matters, then they also still need to catch up to GM and its ZR-1!!
I am quite insulted you would even compare a Porsche to a GT-R. GT-Rs are far superior.

seefarr

1,461 posts

185 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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sennastyl said:
PorschePorschePorschePorschePorschePorschePorsche
Chaps,
Please ignore him. He's American and therefore probably quite corpulent and unhappy. If you feed the troll it will end up something like my personal favourite GT-R thread:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Now, nobody mention the "P" word again and just ignore him, OK?
Thanks,
Seefarr

PZR

627 posts

184 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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redvictor said:
I'm not a fan of jap cars but.......
What a strange thing to write. It's even more extraordinary to think that it comes from a car enthusiast, and was written on a car enthusiast forum.

Is it some form of automotive xenophobia? Do you hate cars that are Japanese just because they are Japanese, or is there some other reason that allows you to put roughly 100 year's worth of industrial product into one big box and close the lid on it?

Bizarre....

Thrugglevalve

39 posts

140 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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After watching this posting I think Mizuno-sans dedication, enthusiasm and loyalty to the GTR and his Team is inspirational. Long live the GTR. Being a petrol head we need people like Mizuno to push the boudaries, to bring us the latest technology, performance and reliability. He’s done a fantastic job so far. IMO.

FD3Si

857 posts

143 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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Big Six said:
Still wished they kept the Skyline name to be honest
At the risk of sounding like a pedantic whodyamaflip (On PH? No wai...) - the 'Skyline' name still exists. It was never the exclusive name for the high performance 'halo' models, it was the name for a range of cars from teh incredibly mundane 4 door to the GTR.
2 litre NA automatic 4 door Skylines are in existence - it's just like having a 406 or Astra. It's always been the GTR bit that makes them special smile

sw1000xg

63 posts

148 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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sennastyl said:
Porsche owners wasting their money & GT-R embarassing Porsche are both comments that make me laugh!!!

Nissan has been at the Nurburgring for a good 5-6 years now TRYING to beat Porsche! It's called a GT2 RS Japboys, go look it up.

When the GT-R came out the owners were not allowed to use it's top end performance otherwise the warranty would be void. Couldn't even change the wheels otherwise the warranty would be void. Were not allowed to track it otherwise GPS would pick up location and warranty would be void!!!

Porsche is built to drive to work during the weekdays and race on weekends!! So much so, they actually encourage it.

So, keep on trying Nissan I wish you luck. And to the owners that think they have a better product than Porsche, it's partially because they don't know how to drive one. A GT-R is like a Lexus, it's built for my grandmother to drive. Absolutely boring! If speed is all that matters, then they also still need to catch up to GM and its ZR-1!!
You joking the most powerful Porsche thats got 620bhp 500 lb ft 300KG less special track tires called Michelin PS cup, not usable everyday and you think thats a win? HA! Go back to school!

Porsche have been owned for the last 4 years!