RE: BBR Mazda MX-5 'Super 180'

[RenesisEvo]

Penneth said:

J4CKO said:

2 grand for an exhaust, panel filter and remap ?

Sounds like about a grands worth to me, 20 bhp isnt going to be that big of an increase, a turbo conversion wouldnt be that much more.

Don't forget the manifold and sportscat. A decent exhaust can easily set you back a grand these days so it seems like great value for money for the entire package.

This, plus no doubt BBR are recovering their development costs. Personally, the idea of picking up a £6k MX-5, then having the option to easily and reliably obtain a bit more go strongly appeals.

I hope PH can have a drive of a Super 180 and a stock one and report back on the differences.

[J4CKO]

RenesisEvo said:

Penneth said:

J4CKO said:

2 grand for an exhaust, panel filter and remap ?

Sounds like about a grands worth to me, 20 bhp isnt going to be that big of an increase, a turbo conversion wouldnt be that much more.

Don't forget the manifold and sportscat. A decent exhaust can easily set you back a grand these days so it seems like great value for money for the entire package.

This, plus no doubt BBR are recovering their development costs. Personally, the idea of picking up a £6k MX-5, then having the option to easily and reliably obtain a bit more go strongly appeals.

I hope PH can have a drive of a Super 180 and a stock one and report back on the differences.

Anyone else thinking, sod that, go and buy an S2000, Boxster S etc ?

[sodslaw]

J4CKO said:

RenesisEvo said:

Penneth said:

J4CKO said:

2 grand for an exhaust, panel filter and remap ?

Sounds like about a grands worth to me, 20 bhp isnt going to be that big of an increase, a turbo conversion wouldnt be that much more.

Don't forget the manifold and sportscat. A decent exhaust can easily set you back a grand these days so it seems like great value for money for the entire package.

This, plus no doubt BBR are recovering their development costs. Personally, the idea of picking up a £6k MX-5, then having the option to easily and reliably obtain a bit more go strongly appeals.

I hope PH can have a drive of a Super 180 and a stock one and report back on the differences.

Anyone else thinking, sod that, go and buy an S2000, Boxster S etc ?

+ 1

needs to come from mazda if its going to come from anywhere

[JamesHayward]

You know for £2k and a willingness to spanner yourself for that same price you could build a very similar engine to the GT Concept. The easiest way to flow power from a Duratec is to help it breathe a bit better.

Couple of links for you all

http://www.omextechnology.co.uk/Omex%20Duratec%20T...

http://www.sbdmotorsport.co.uk/

[tomoleeds]

J4CKO, Exactly,if your spending anywhere near £6 k ,there are better cars, To me the MX5 is a girls car.
and before anyone says have you driven one,no i have not,but i have owned convertible Porche, Bmw, Audi ,Mecedes,,i mean you can buy a E46 soft top on a 2002 for £3k,or SLK,or a Audi TT with 225bhp for £3k,
thats way better than a MX5

[Pablo16v]

tomoleeds said:

J4CKO, Exactly,if your spending anywhere near £6 k ,there are better cars, To me the MX5 is a girls car.
and before anyone says have you driven one,no i have not,but i have owned convertible Porche, Bmw, Audi ,Mecedes,,i mean you can buy a E46 soft top on a 2002 for £3k,or SLK,or a Audi TT with 225bhp for £3k,
thats way better than a MX5

You reckon an MX5 is a girls car yet you're suggesting SLK's and TT's as alternatives?

[FlavaDave]

vz-r_dave said:

steve_bmw said:

yep, £6000 for the car and £2000 for the upgrade, no thanks you can buy a really nice car for that much.

What other 2.0 convertible can you buy, same year, same power output, same rewarding chassis?

Yes - elaborate. What else would you get for 8K... ?

[dvance]

Honda S2000 > Maxda MX5 :P

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

[Riknos]

Took less than 30 posts for it to turn into an MX-5 is a girl's car thread.

Surprised there isn't any hairdresser comments... yet.

[Captain Muppet]

FlavaDave said:

vz-r_dave said:

steve_bmw said:

yep, £6000 for the car and £2000 for the upgrade, no thanks you can buy a really nice car for that much.

What other 2.0 convertible can you buy, same year, same power output, same rewarding chassis?

Yes - elaborate. What else would you get for 8K... ?

If the criteria are "must be the same chassis as an MX5" then only an MX5 will do. The criteria as set seem needlessly limiting.
If the question is "which convertible sports car would you spend 8 grand on" then there are many alternatives, each of which will deviate from the MX5 to some extent, and most of which won't instantly lose £2k in value like that tuned MX5.

Although if it was me: a turbo MX5 and 6 grand in change.

[suffolk009]

I was just recently an underbidder on this beauty.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...

MK1 BBR Turbo, 165bhp. It sold for £3100. Looked clean and tidy.

[SimonSaid]

dvance said:

Honda S2000 > Maxda MX5 :P

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

Come on, this was on PH last week - as we all now know, insuring an S2000 is a joke. That is why they are so cheap.

An MX5 costs about the same to insure as a family hatchback. Sure - that's because it's slower - I'd rather have an S2000 too, but saying it's a no-brainer is really short-sighted.

To put it another way, the average insurance cost on an S2000 would buy you an MX5 of reasonable vintage.

[Captain Muppet]

SimonSaid said:

Come on, this was on PH last week - as we all now know, insuring an S2000 is a joke. That is why they are so cheap.

An MX5 costs about the same to insure as a family hatchback. Sure - that's because it's slower - I'd rather have an S2000 too, but saying it's a no-brainer is really short-sighted.

To put it another way, the average insurance cost on an S2000 would buy you an MX5 of reasonable vintage.

Sure, standard MX5s aren't expensive to insure, but how about ones with £2ks worth of performance mods?

Getting insurance quotes for my MX5 is a nightmare.

[Daveyraveygravey]

Pablo16v said:

You reckon an MX5 is a girls car yet you're suggesting SLK's and TT's as alternatives?

+1! SLK - really?!

[RenesisEvo]

J4CKO said:

Anyone else thinking, sod that, go and buy an S2000, Boxster S etc ?

Two words: running costs

[hornetrider]

Daveyraveygravey said:

Pablo16v said:

You reckon an MX5 is a girls car yet you're suggesting SLK's and TT's as alternatives?

+1! SLK - really?!

+1000!!11!! E46 Cab?????

I think we can consign that post to trash

[bakerstreet]

vz-r_dave said:

What other 2.0 convertible can you buy, same year, same power output, same rewarding chassis?

You can buy a S2000 for £4k for a start and that has 240bhp as standard.

[g40steve]

Captain Muppet said:

Sure, standard MX5s aren't expensive to insure, but how about ones with £2ks worth of performance mods?

Getting insurance quotes for my MX5 is a nightmare.

Did you not read the first few posts.
Try looking at the thread on Nutz you will see I have answered all your questions, with prices that have been confirmed including 4 trackdays included.

Hint £4--

[Captain Muppet]

g40steve said:

Captain Muppet said:

Sure, standard MX5s aren't expensive to insure, but how about ones with £2ks worth of performance mods?

Getting insurance quotes for my MX5 is a nightmare.

Did you not read the first few posts.
Try looking at the thread on Nutz you will see I have answered all your questions, with prices that have been confirmed including 4 trackdays included.

Hint £4--

I read the entire first page of this thread without seeing insurance mentioned once. Unless you mean a thread on Nutz, in which case I'm not going to go looking for it.

I'm paying £3-- for my turbo MX5, with track day cover.

However my MX5 costs more than my Elise to insure, despite being worth less than quarter as much, having tiny repair costs and being slower.

[Blackpuddin]

My MX-5. sold earlier this year, was under £200 fully comp for me and the missis. Classic policy with RH, recommended.

Re earlier comment about cars like this needing to come from Mazda, don't really agree, remember testing the original BBR turbo and it was brilliant. And that was the lower-powered option as I recall.