RE: BMW: don't drive your M5, M6

RE: BMW: don't drive your M5, M6

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Mr.Jimbo

2,082 posts

182 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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Highly unlikely they'll have a NAS spec oil pump.

I would imagine they have a NAS spec engine however, for emissions reasons, so it's likely that a faulty batch of oil pumps were made for american engines, hence the recall only in the US.

Either that or the threat of class action lawsuits as mentioned above hehe

:edit: bugger, beaten to it.

GroundEffect

13,819 posts

155 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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KaraK said:
cure said:
Strange the oil pump for the us and UK model is different then..
If they are saying it's a manufacturing defect then it may be the parts are the same but it was only a batch sent to the US that was effected?
Or it's a localised part...

Yescomment

26 posts

138 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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Sure !! I won't drive :P

gowmonster

2,471 posts

166 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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SmartVenom said:
I actually think good on BMW for issuing the recall, not all German manufacturers have been so quick to acknowledge potential causes of engine failure.
- *cough* porsche *cough*

Fubar1977

916 posts

139 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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I`ve a feeling that recalls are more common in the US as they have more a "sueing" culture over there.
It does`nt take much for them to get a class-action lawsuit going.
It`s a bit like that issue with a certain brand of pushchair chopping of little `uns fingers where a recall was done immediately in the US, Europe and the UK didn`t get the recall till much later if at all.

Cynical, me? Never...

zebedee

4,589 posts

277 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
"There have been no reported cases of engine failure as a result of the fault."

Hmmmm, sounds REALLY serious. Not.
I think suddenly losing oil pressure is a pretty serious flaw for an engine. All they are saying is that they have identified the possible problem early, but the consequence of not sorting out certainly would be serious, what does one of those engines cost?

Contigo

3,113 posts

208 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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Awesome car the F10. Glad they have issued the recall!

leon9191

752 posts

192 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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I wonder what engine noises are pumped into the cabin during a catastrophic engine failure on one of these?

leon9191

752 posts

192 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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I wonder what engine noises are pumped into the cabin during a catastrophic engine failure on one of these?

JS100

221 posts

156 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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Would have been a very different reaction if this had happened to a Lotus I hypothesise?!

mazda3mps

12 posts

161 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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BMW NA are far far better for recalls and warranty notices - the N54 335i is plagued with issues, but not one has been recognised in the UK / Europe.

ghibbett

1,900 posts

184 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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I would imagine BMW were building a batch of Federal spec cars when the defect was brought to light.

I like the way the article says that BMW found it through routine quality inspections; their inspections obviously failed if these vehicles got out of the Plant!! More likely the Supplier realised there was an issue, flagged it to BMW, who then went into 'delivery stop' mode and started working out where all the affected vehicles were. Unfortunately some got out of the Plant, this would have then been raised up to the higher powers that be in conjunction with cost analysis of recall vs effect (and warranty cost) of multiple failures. And there we go: recall.

I imagine there's been a lot of overtime going on in Deutschland regarding this. Would have liked a piece of that action wink

otolith

55,899 posts

203 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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leon9191 said:
I wonder what engine noises are pumped into the cabin during a catastrophic engine failure on one of these?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMpXAknykeg

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

235 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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simple fix is to change the oil pump !

crikey that is probably an engine out job and needs the whole thing taken apart

this is gonna cost them millions to put right !

Ian974

2,927 posts

198 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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russkyh said:
A BMW GB spokesman said the problem does not affect UK cars. ‘We have had no notice of such,’ they said.

Watch this space!
In much the same way there was apparently no issue with the security systems on them either until a week or so ago

Veg

497 posts

282 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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gowmonster said:
- *cough* porsche *cough*
or that non-fault of all VW 2.0 TDI engines at 50k+ breaking the oil pump and exploding. How many friends has that happened too! Must be a "they all do that sir"!

LotusAlfaV6bloke

203 posts

191 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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Yep, put a rotary in there! Much more reliable and interesting smile

Time for some cheeky payback on the Mazda RX8 thread recently where there was such outrage at unreliability in mass produced saloons wink - I seemed to recall the unfortunate owner was told by the PH Massive how much better life would be in a rusty old BMW?

So with the BMW's tearing out their boot floors cos they are not strong enough (recalled in US but not Europe from memory?), very slow action on the terrible car security issues in the press currently, auto boxes that are over-stressed from new, and those with longer memories still thinking "Nikasil"...

I have a BMW (worse car I have owned but have to keep it cos of the cash it has eaten), this is my silly way of taking away the pain for a bit smile

M@1975

591 posts

226 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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Recalls ag go go, had a notice to recall my E60 this year as there was "a small possibility that the battery could set fire to the car"... nice..

Phil Dicky

7,162 posts

262 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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Ian974 said:
russkyh said:
A BMW GB spokesman said the problem does not affect UK cars. ‘We have had no notice of such,’ they said.

Watch this space!
In much the same way there was apparently no issue with the security systems on them either until a week or so ago
The spokesman forgot to add 'yet' to the end of his statement

BlackPorker

378 posts

174 months

Monday 24th September 2012
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German said:
Been a good few weeks for us then....cant drive your E60 M5, the local scrotes have had it away.
Unless you have 2005 E60 M5 with the trusty old faithful metal key.