RE: Spotted: Honda NSX
Discussion
C.A.R. said:
MarJay said:
I always thought that NSX's were legendary... Until I found out that they 'only' had 276bhp and from a V6 of all things.
I at least expected a 300bhp V8... Not sure why.
Like all Japanese sportscars then? I at least expected a 300bhp V8... Not sure why.
It's the 280PS thing - marketed as such but generally these things produced a lot more power at the 'fly than they were "supposed" to. Basically Japan attributed high-powered cars with this 'Gentlemans Agreement' to not exceed 276bhp / 280PS in the domestic market.
When exported, however, the cars often had a higher output. See the JDM-spec cars vs. their UKDM counterparts. Often, the 'restriction' was either not really there in the first place or easily removed (rumours have it JDM cars were 'detuned')
I'd wager that the NSX in the article above even has more than 276bhp...
Ok, I’m going to be the first 348 owner to stick up for the Ferrari. The NSX was rightly a revelation at the time for two reasons:
1: A Japanese company makes a desirable mid-engine super car – normally the remit of Europeans up until then
2: It was a supercar with the usability and practically of a Honda, which was unheard of up until then.
Because of these two things it made a good story for the motoring press at the time, and got a lot of publicity.
But putting these two things aside, in hind sight it is clear that the 348 is much more fun, better looking, more special and desirable.
(ducks)
1: A Japanese company makes a desirable mid-engine super car – normally the remit of Europeans up until then
2: It was a supercar with the usability and practically of a Honda, which was unheard of up until then.
Because of these two things it made a good story for the motoring press at the time, and got a lot of publicity.
But putting these two things aside, in hind sight it is clear that the 348 is much more fun, better looking, more special and desirable.
(ducks)
Lyons said:
Ok, I’m going to be the first 348 owner to stick up for the Ferrari. The NSX was rightly a revelation at the time for two reasons:
1: A Japanese company makes a desirable mid-engine super car – normally the remit of Europeans up until then
2: It was a supercar with the usability and practically of a Honda, which was unheard of up until then.
Because of these two things it made a good story for the motoring press at the time, and got a lot of publicity.
But putting these two things aside, in hind sight it is clear that the 348 is much more fun, better looking, more special and desirable.
(ducks)
How are you defining fun, special, and desirable?1: A Japanese company makes a desirable mid-engine super car – normally the remit of Europeans up until then
2: It was a supercar with the usability and practically of a Honda, which was unheard of up until then.
Because of these two things it made a good story for the motoring press at the time, and got a lot of publicity.
But putting these two things aside, in hind sight it is clear that the 348 is much more fun, better looking, more special and desirable.
(ducks)
Having sold my 2004 car 18 months ago and seen it sold on for 12K more than i sold it for a couple of months ago (after keeping it 2.5 Years and getting what i paid for it) my opinion is great car as it was a good example is not worth the 50K mark. As much as I loved it I would baulk at that kind of money for an 8 year old motor.
Lyons said:
Ok, I’m going to be the first 348 owner to stick up for the Ferrari. The NSX was rightly a revelation at the time for two reasons:
1: A Japanese company makes a desirable mid-engine super car – normally the remit of Europeans up until then
2: It was a supercar with the usability and practically of a Honda, which was unheard of up until then.
Because of these two things it made a good story for the motoring press at the time, and got a lot of publicity.
But putting these two things aside, in hind sight it is clear that the 348 is much more fun, better looking, more special and desirable.
(ducks)
1: A Japanese company makes a desirable mid-engine super car – normally the remit of Europeans up until then
2: It was a supercar with the usability and practically of a Honda, which was unheard of up until then.
Because of these two things it made a good story for the motoring press at the time, and got a lot of publicity.
But putting these two things aside, in hind sight it is clear that the 348 is much more fun, better looking, more special and desirable.
(ducks)
Captain Muppet said:
Is it really much more dull than the 348 inside?
The fact it was not a 'success' at the time I think makes it all the more desirable...so many other factors here, because despite the fact it is widley recognised as 'great' or at the very least 'very good' meant little as you has looks, inside and outside, political/financial climate, price and badge/brand snobbery...
All that adding to the fact that now...it's rare, still very good and with the passing of time increasingly desirable.... Honda's finest road car moment?
Power ain't the be all and end all, it was comparative tot he Ferraris and porsches of the day so thats that box ticked...and Clarkson handled it ok at Laguna Seca....
All that adding to the fact that now...it's rare, still very good and with the passing of time increasingly desirable.... Honda's finest road car moment?
Power ain't the be all and end all, it was comparative tot he Ferraris and porsches of the day so thats that box ticked...and Clarkson handled it ok at Laguna Seca....
Chris Harris said:
Are NSXs over-priced at the moment, or should we be stashing good ones away in preparation for a march towards six-figure territory?
It was always good so long as you didn’t push too hard. Then it became a serious handful.
A few years ago, when I was in the position to drop £20K on a 3rd or 4th car without much thought, you could pick up a good NSX with low mileage for £15-20K. There weren't that many around then and less now so if there is demand they will always increase in value. That yellow NSX is very low miles and a one owner.It was always good so long as you didn’t push too hard. Then it became a serious handful.
But six figure? My head is telling me you'd be waiting to see that but then they have almost doubled in 3-5 years. Try doing that with shares!
Is the handling that bad? Never got to drive one by didn't Gordon Murray use the NSX as a benchmark for the F1?
hussein said:
Great vid, thanks for the linkWhenever I read about NSXs I'm always reminded of the time I saw this little moment at Castle Combe which shows how the NSX can bite back...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCP4F6P9zXw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCP4F6P9zXw
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