RE: Peugeot 208 GTi Limited Edition
Discussion
Twincam16 said:
anything fast said:
wow what a generic bubble of crud..
I cant think why anyone would want to buy a modern pug, they have all the appeal of a turd roll.
I'm amazed at the number of people on this thread who've clearly driven this car, especially given that none of the mags have even been given demonstrators yet.I cant think why anyone would want to buy a modern pug, they have all the appeal of a turd roll.
modern peugeots make good minicabs and the smaller ones ideal for ladies who have just passed their test.. i dont see many other people driving them. Sorry.
anything fast said:
dont care how it drives, I am sure it wont be anything ground breaking, just a boring looking typical modern pug.. nothing like the original 205GTi which was a great looking car as well as being a cut above most other hot hatches.
modern peugeots make good minicabs and the smaller ones ideal for ladies who have just passed their test.. i dont see many other people driving them. Sorry.
That's the majority of cars by just about any mainstream manufacture then. Truly ground breaking cars at any level don't appear with every new release. modern peugeots make good minicabs and the smaller ones ideal for ladies who have just passed their test.. i dont see many other people driving them. Sorry.
iggysport said:
Indeed, Ignis Sport was always promoted with it's junior rallying links but the Swift Sport was not and it was still a success.
Peugeot should be aware of this. Before the 205GTi revolution, it had b*gger all. The 104 and 104ZS were fairly dull little hatches (sharing its platform with the Citroen LNA and Talbot Samba), The 204 was a funny little saloon, the 304 was about the best looking but noting to write home about and the 404 was their motorsport stalwart in long distance rallying despite looking like a sharper Austin Cambridge.It only takes one "spot-on" product to transform the image of a company. With VW it was the Golf GTI, Renault the GT Turbo (though in fairness they had some sporty Gordinis for a long time, Ford was probably the leader with many reinventions using Lotus and RS badges and even the XR name was a touch of marketing brilliance.
405dogvan said:
PH lurker said:
Codswallop said:
It does look rather nice, but that price appears to be rather high. Then again, it's probably a consequence of inflation, and we need to re-adjust our perceptions.
I know they are not exactly like for like, but I'm not too sure:PEUGEOT 208 GTI LIMITED EDITION
£20,495
Suzuki Swift Sport
£13,499
http://www.suzuki.co.uk/cars/cars/new/new-swift-sp...
http://www.suzuki.co.uk/cars/cars/new/new-swift-sp...
Ninjaboy said:
Nail on the head, europe is tryin to tell people what they want. Clearly we don't want what they are offering. GT86 yes, this nah no thanks.
Niche car, no mass producer would survive just make stuff like GT86, Clio/Megan Sports etc. Even the mighty Toyota brought in Subaru as a partner on the twins to share costs of the bespoke chassis. If a company has great ideas, real creative forward thinking, people, telling people what they want is the way to go. Jaguar used to clinic their cars to traditional, die hard customers and look where that got them. Now they have owners who allow designers to free their minds and produce fresh looking products. I doubt anyone said they wanted an Evoque but there it is. Whether you like it or not, lots of people do, want it and are putting them on their drives. Peugeot needs fresh thinking and a smattering of models that are interesting that get them talked about, admired and bought by enthusiasts.LuS1fer said:
Peugeot should be aware of this. Before the 205GTi revolution, it had b*gger all. The 104 and 104ZS were fairly dull little hatches (sharing its platform with the Citroen LNA and Talbot Samba), The 204 was a funny little saloon, the 304 was about the best looking but noting to write home about and the 404 was their motorsport stalwart in long distance rallying despite looking like a sharper Austin Cambridge.
It only takes one "spot-on" product to transform the image of a company. With VW it was the Golf GTI, Renault the GT Turbo (though in fairness they had some sporty Gordinis for a long time, Ford was probably the leader with many reinventions using Lotus and RS badges and even the XR name was a touch of marketing brilliance.
The 305 was launched in '77, and regarded as a fine - highly regarded - but "plodding" car... the 205 range in itself was your Golf GTI/5 GT Turbo product even before the GTI - and HOW!! It only takes one "spot-on" product to transform the image of a company. With VW it was the Golf GTI, Renault the GT Turbo (though in fairness they had some sporty Gordinis for a long time, Ford was probably the leader with many reinventions using Lotus and RS badges and even the XR name was a touch of marketing brilliance.
You're quite right, of course
- how could Peugeot go full circle in just 30 years??? Serious, if rhetorical, post! eein said:
Releasing before the 'main' GTI... hmmmm.... sounds like a prototype batch to me. get all the niggles and oddities out the way and just claim they were for the special edition. It's a bit like Peugeot are trying to do a Ferrari FXX approach.
Sounds like they are trying the BMC/BLMC/BL/Austin Morris/Austin Rover Approach (where the buyers in the first year are the final quality road testers) but with a fleet of 29 and not hundreds of thousands 
, from your comment...And this from a BMC/BLMC/BL/AM/AR fan
! Perhaps Peugeot are going to the wall - but they've got a couple of decades left yet with this stunt.And as an owner of a 309 which sees service most days I just can't get my head around post x06 Pugs and how they look. More cheese Gromit?
405dogvan said:
So the solution would be to
GO RALLYING
Obviously we've moved on - away from kagoules and parkas in a Welsh Forest and into purpose-built X Games arenas
What's needed is a 208 which rivals Ken Block's Fiesta - and someone with the style to drive it.
Call Jean Todt...
No, what they do need to do is step away from rallying cars no-one can actually buy and put this, as unmodified as possible, into something like the Targa Tasmania. If they've got it right, they've little to worry about.GO RALLYING
Obviously we've moved on - away from kagoules and parkas in a Welsh Forest and into purpose-built X Games arenas
What's needed is a 208 which rivals Ken Block's Fiesta - and someone with the style to drive it.
Call Jean Todt...
I'm sick of seeing rally cars which bear almost no resemblance to anything you can buy from a showroom.
In a way, this seems to be a reflection of what happens in the US where any DESIRABLE new car is always marked up $20000 by the dealers so if you want one of the first ones in your area, by hell, you have to pay for the privilege or wait until the novelty has worn off.
Sadly, the 208 GTI doesn't really fall into that camp.
Sadly, the 208 GTI doesn't really fall into that camp.
Peugeot would be OK if they just designed cars that drove well - like they used to.
In the time of the 205GTi just about every Peugeot was pretty much best in class to drive: 205, 309, 405 etc. The 406 was pretty good too, although it was about that time that the Mondeo started giving them a run for their money in the "good to drive" stakes.
Since those days their products have become increasingly mediocre and their fortunes have followed the same path - some connection there I would suggest.
In the time of the 205GTi just about every Peugeot was pretty much best in class to drive: 205, 309, 405 etc. The 406 was pretty good too, although it was about that time that the Mondeo started giving them a run for their money in the "good to drive" stakes.
Since those days their products have become increasingly mediocre and their fortunes have followed the same path - some connection there I would suggest.
CDP said:
HighwayStar said:
CDP said:
I like the 208 but it's not 20 grands worth. More like 15.
Why? Make it £15,000 with solid paint and no gadgets and they'll sell loads.
It's also 2K more than the already highly priced Mini Cooper S.
Hub said:
article said:
Why 29? That’s one for each year since the UK launch of the original 205 GTi in 1984
Talk about living off past glories!Still I don't think it actually looks that bad. WOuld never buy one mind... ropey build quality and poor depreciation have killed any desire for another Pug!
They really need to stop namechecking the 205 every time they bring out a hot hatch.
Unless it's actually going to be really good.
750turbo said:
Rumours of an even hotter version being tweeted by @CarDealerEd
"Peugeot MD Tim Zimmerman tells me he expects to sell 2,000 208 GTI models a year. And there could be an even hotter model to come. #PMS12"
With the new Group R regulations effectively being a rekindling of Group A with a parc of 3500 required, we could get a rally homologation version."Peugeot MD Tim Zimmerman tells me he expects to sell 2,000 208 GTI models a year. And there could be an even hotter model to come. #PMS12"
Eighteeteewhy said:
cRaigalexander said:
I think its a nice car, but Im still glad I spent (considerably less!) restoring this instead 
Love it, is it a real Griffe?ETA...just noticed the servo is on the wrong(right)side. Great looking car though.
...other than that - looks ace! Certainly in better nick than mine!
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