RE: Paris 2012: Fiat Panda 4x4
Discussion
WMP said:
Twincam16 said:
I like the Panda 4x4. I often wonder whether Fiat could get away with lowering and stiffening the suspension, fitting a more powerful engine and making it a kind of latter-day mini-Integrale.
Come to think of it, isn't there a Lancia based on the Panda floorplan? They could do it with that and even call it an Integrale. Then enter it in the IRC.
That sounds like a plan! If Fiat made this car as the next 100 hp it would be awesome. Is it too small to comply with the WRC regs though?Come to think of it, isn't there a Lancia based on the Panda floorplan? They could do it with that and even call it an Integrale. Then enter it in the IRC.
BeirutTaxi said:
The old Panda 4x4 is loveable in many ways.. So dirt cheap and simple!
As an interesting fact of the day.. I think alongside the Defender the really old Panda's are the only production car in the world to have a totally flat windscreen
The Lotus Esprit S1/S2/S3 only had flat glass and looked a treat.As an interesting fact of the day.. I think alongside the Defender the really old Panda's are the only production car in the world to have a totally flat windscreen
Fiat ought to do a variant without the front diff and half shafts as an "up yours" to BMW.
CDP said:
BeirutTaxi said:
The old Panda 4x4 is loveable in many ways.. So dirt cheap and simple!
As an interesting fact of the day.. I think alongside the Defender the really old Panda's are the only production car in the world to have a totally flat windscreen
The Lotus Esprit S1/S2/S3 only had flat glass and looked a treat.As an interesting fact of the day.. I think alongside the Defender the really old Panda's are the only production car in the world to have a totally flat windscreen
Fiat ought to do a variant without the front diff and half shafts as an "up yours" to BMW.
Luke. said:
CDP said:
BeirutTaxi said:
The old Panda 4x4 is loveable in many ways.. So dirt cheap and simple!
As an interesting fact of the day.. I think alongside the Defender the really old Panda's are the only production car in the world to have a totally flat windscreen
The Lotus Esprit S1/S2/S3 only had flat glass and looked a treat.As an interesting fact of the day.. I think alongside the Defender the really old Panda's are the only production car in the world to have a totally flat windscreen
Fiat ought to do a variant without the front diff and half shafts as an "up yours" to BMW.
In fact, there was a time from the dawn of motoring up to the Forties when you could only have a flat windscreen because they didn't know how to curve the glass while making it sufficiently strong or possible to see through.
Twincam16 said:
Pretty sure the Lamborghini Countach was as well.
In fact, there was a time from the dawn of motoring up to the Forties when you could only have a flat windscreen because they didn't know how to curve the glass while making it sufficiently strong or possible to see through.
Then in the fifties they worked it out and went mad with wrap around screens.In fact, there was a time from the dawn of motoring up to the Forties when you could only have a flat windscreen because they didn't know how to curve the glass while making it sufficiently strong or possible to see through.
SprintSpeciale said:
These little gems are proof that you can have an interesting, enjoyable, fully warranted car for a relatively small outlay. In their way, they are just as impressive as the more exotic stuff that usually attracts the attention of the PH massive.
Couldn't agree with you more. We have a 2005 1.2 Elegance as our 'city car' that I use every day to work - long overdue a change but I still enjoy driving it as much today as the day we collected it! If it suits your life style the Panda can be a hard car to beat !irish boy said:
Love mine...bought it for the big snow of 2010 and couldn't bring myself to sell so it's a permanent fixture in the garage now.
Had some cracking drives in it....much more capable than people realise.
That's brilliant!Had some cracking drives in it....much more capable than people realise.
What'd you tow it up there with?
Liking the new version, 85hp with the potentially added weight might be a little low, although I'm sure is ecu will be tweakable.
BigTom85 said:
Lets not forget its sister, Fiat's own Sedici.
In the UK at least, the majority of the Sedici's are 4x4 and yet the majority of the Suzuki SX4s are 2wd. A bizarre twist. I believe that Fiat no longer import the Sedici which is available in European markets with the 2.0JTDm diesel and a facelifted nose. The Panda 4x4 running gear was developed by Steyr-Puch who were also responsible for the Haflinger/Derflinger/Pinzgauer all terrain vehicles, which possibly accounts for the Panda's cross country abilities.
Evo-Unknown said:
True, this is an unlikely PH Hero for sure; but I enjoyed seeing this here and like the look of the new Panda 4x4.
I'm 'into' Fiat at the moment for probably the first time ever. I'm due to pick up a 100HP in just over a weeks time and have an 80's 4x4 coming my way for the winter months...
You'll love the 100HP, it's a cracking little driver's car.I'm 'into' Fiat at the moment for probably the first time ever. I'm due to pick up a 100HP in just over a weeks time and have an 80's 4x4 coming my way for the winter months...
Have had mine from new in early 2007. Intention was to have that for a couple of years, then move up to (eg) a 5dr Golf GTI. However the Panda has been so good I've not felt the need to change, saving a lot of money in the process, and will now keep it for life. It'll remain my commuting/shopping car, and means I can spend the last three years' "Golf" money on (eg) an Evora to run alongside it, instead of getting a generic all-purpose Golf/1 Series.
I love it so much that hopefully you'll see me in 2032 taking my "classic" 1-owner 100HP to the Italian car day at Brooklands!
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