RE: SOTW: Range Rover LSE
Discussion
CAPP0 said:
Morning Richard! Your old VSE is still alive, albeit only just - tinworm is rife, and it's latterly been used as a dog transporter and is now sheddier than a pile of rotten featheredge! Same owner though. He keeps talking about selling it (seeing as he also now owns a P38 and a D3) but never seems to get around to it, although his new Mrs may hold some sway. Unfortunately I think he thinks it's still worth a grand, but compared to this one (on paper at least) it's now worth weigh-in money at best.
I'm in an L322 these days but I'm strangely tempted to go and snaffle this one! I'll be very close to Cobham on Sunday
Nice to hear it's still (just about) alive Mark I'm in an L322 these days but I'm strangely tempted to go and snaffle this one! I'll be very close to Cobham on Sunday
Even when rotten and un-Motable, they still live on whether as donors or offroaders...
CDP said:
Or more precisely what goes wrong that makes a car uneconomic to repair?
On a Landy almost nothing. All parts are available pretty much and everything unbolts so it can be replaced.CDP said:
What goes wrong on them?
Rust is an issue, but rarely terminal.Engines, axles and gearboxes can all leak oil and usually do. All are cheap and easy to repair or replace.
Some electrical gremlins, but there really isn't much electrical on them. All fixable at home.
Suspension clonks. But again this is only red ends & bushes and can all be fixed. Usually easily and cheaply.
Some years ago we drove our soft dash down to Perpignan but the air suspension failed just outside Calais. We continuted and did the whole 750 miles on the rubber bump stops 'low rider' style and it was absolutely fine.
Put it in to the LR dealer in Perpignan who replaced the whole system with genuine parts for half the price it would have cost in the UK.
I loved that truck and this bargin is about 20 miles from me... I must stay strong...
Put it in to the LR dealer in Perpignan who replaced the whole system with genuine parts for half the price it would have cost in the UK.
I loved that truck and this bargin is about 20 miles from me... I must stay strong...
47p2 said:
Rust, problematic electrics, dodgy air suspension, slipped liners... What's not to love about them
Most, in fact almost all Classics don't have air suspension. Slipped liners is not normally an issue with the 3.5/3.9 (and 4.2) RV8's. Thats much more of an issue with the newer 4.0 and 4.6 variants found in the p38a and D2.
. 300bhp/ton said:
47p2 said:
Rust, problematic electrics, dodgy air suspension, slipped liners... What's not to love about them
Most, in fact almost all Classics don't have air suspension. Slipped liners is not normally an issue with the 3.5/3.9 (and 4.2) RV8's. Thats much more of an issue with the newer 4.0 and 4.6 variants found in the p38a and D2.
300bhp/ton said:
Best thing about the LSE is the 4.2 motor. Unless you want a limo the LWB Rangie is inferior in everyway to the regular model (bar the engine of course). 
Good shed though, surprised it's so cheap. In fact the 4.2 on it's own is probably worth as much.
Why so? When these things were new, my father had a Westminster Grey 3.9 Vogue SE (manual!) and then a Mosswood 4.2 LSE in succession, and apart from the obvious point that the auto box in the LSE improved matters no end, I remember the LSE being a much better and more appealing car than the SE. Better too than the 4.6 HSE he replaced the LSE with. That was a complete dog.Good shed though, surprised it's so cheap. In fact the 4.2 on it's own is probably worth as much.
Vixpy1 said:
Err, all the softdash's and many of the late hard dash's have air suspension, which breaks, alot
My experience of the air suspension was that it was pretty reliable and very easy to replace springs if required.I don't think it was as well designed (in a home repair way) as the P38, but I suppose it was really the prototype for that system.
The most annoying thing for me was that when it threw a code (usually osr height sensor for some reason) it had to go to the dealer for a reset.
I'd imagine there is software available now that'll communicate with the car, there wasn't back then.
Air suspension wouldn't put me off, but new dampers and a huge lift kit would be tempting...
Wolands Advocate said:
Why so? When these things were new, my father had a Westminster Grey 3.9 Vogue SE (manual!) and then a Mosswood 4.2 LSE in succession, and apart from the obvious point that the auto box in the LSE improved matters no end, I remember the LSE being a much better and more appealing car than the SE. Better too than the 4.6 HSE he replaced the LSE with. That was a complete dog.
I don't dislike the LSE, but it's bigger, longer, heavier, given equal HP it'll have a worse power/weight ratio and be slower than a SWB one. Worse turning circle, less off road ability with worse ramp over angles and I personally think the LWB ruins the looks.If you need the rear leg room for a Limo - yes. If not a normal RR is still better IMO.
Vixpy1 said:
Err, all the softdash's and many of the late hard dash's have air suspension, which breaks, alot
err, but they've been building Range Rover's since 1970, the soft dash was just the last of the breed when prices rose and the Disco took the place the RR just to be marketed in.Most Range Rover's are coil sprung and most are not soft dash ones. The air suspension also isn't very complex and is only problematic when people try to fix it by charging lots of money and not actually understanding the system.
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