RE: Paris 2012: the hot Kia Pro_Cee'd

[will261058]

That is a looker, better than the Scirocco, Focus, Astra! Isnt their head designer ex Audi? It certainly shows.

[iggysport]

Fantastic looking car, was obvious Kia was going to become a serious player as soon as the last Cee'd came out.

Should seriously worry the French in particular.

[Agoogy]

will261058 said:

Isnt their head designer ex Audi? It certainly shows.

yep Peter Schreyer:

Audi TT, 1998
Audi A6, 1998[15]
Audi A3, 1996[8]
Volkswagen New Beetle, 1998
Volkswagen Golf, IV, 1998[2]
Volkswagen Concept R, 2004
Volkswagen Eos[16] 2006
Kia Borrego, 2009
Kia Venga, 2009 (& Kia No. 3 Concept)
Kia Forte, 2010
Kia Sorento, 2010
Kia Sportage, 2010
Kia Cadenza, 2011
Kia Optima, 2011
Kia Picanto/Morning, 2011
Kia Rio, 2011
Kia Cee'd, 2012

[wheelsmith]

Saw one of normal version the other day, looks good, even pointed it out to the wife(god knows why)

[AlpinaB5s]

kambites said:

The seven year warranty is worth a fair bit, too.

the seven year warranty is essential, from what I hear from those I know who drive them.

Reliability will come eventually though and with the aesthetic and drivability inroads they are making into the market they will be very hard to ignore in 5 years time in certain markets.

[gezkc]

Tartan Pixie said:

I wonder how long the marketing bods have been waiting to put the word Pro in there, or whether there was a fight over the possibility of using the prefix Ex instead?

They've been calling their 3 door "Pro Ceed" ever since the first generation was launched.

They've also already used "Ex Ceed" on a concept car a few years ago.

For some reason, I notice they've avoided using "Con" as a prefix up to now!

Edited by gezkc on Friday 28th September 14:00

[LuS1fer]

No matter, there are still:
Pre Ceed
Ani Ceed
A Ceed (for advanced hippies)
Grass Ceed (for lesser hippies)
and
Re Ceed (for bald people).

[SevenR]

I bought the little Piccanto recently brand new for going to work in. I wanted something very cheap with good reliability. I love it. It's really good fun to drive and even the wee triple engine makes a little growl. Not as good on the juice as promised. But 7 year warranty and no road tax makes for good cheap motoring which is also fun on a wee twisty road.
I think Kia have followed the same pattern as Honda and Toyota did. started out with pig ugly vehicles that were super cheap but a bit crap. Sorted the reliability issues, then the styling, and look at Honda now.
Kia have topped Which magazine surveys too and come out no'1 a few times now for customer service.
Not long till they earn the respect they are due.
As long as this car is fun to drive and priced correctly they'll have a winner.
BTW, I don't work for KIA lol

[Gizmoish]

SevenR said:

I bought the little Piccanto recently brand new for going to work in. I wanted something very cheap with good reliability. I love it. It's really good fun to drive and even the wee triple engine makes a little growl. Not as good on the juice as promised. But 7 year warranty and no road tax makes for good cheap motoring which is also fun on a wee twisty road.
I think Kia have followed the same pattern as Honda and Toyota did. started out with pig ugly vehicles that were super cheap but a bit crap. Sorted the reliability issues, then the styling, and look at Honda now.
Kia have topped Which magazine surveys too and come out no'1 a few times now for customer service.
Not long till they earn the respect they are due.
As long as this car is fun to drive and priced correctly they'll have a winner.
BTW, I don't work for KIA lol

Would be better to look at Honda about 12 years ago IMO...

[dhariwab]

Looks like a potential replacement for the mrs. Golf methinks

[lescombes]

CDP said:

Now we need a Dacia Sandero GTI with the Clio Cup engine/suspension to come in at under ten grand and the Golf's a part of history.

+1 .... see the Logan rally car on you tube...

[jbforce10]

Agoogy said:

will261058 said:

Isnt their head designer ex Audi? It certainly shows.

yep Peter Schreyer:

Audi TT, 1998
Audi A6, 1998[15]
Audi A3, 1996[8]
Volkswagen New Beetle, 1998
Volkswagen Golf, IV, 1998[2]
Volkswagen Concept R, 2004
Volkswagen Eos[16] 2006
Kia Borrego, 2009
Kia Venga, 2009 (& Kia No. 3 Concept)
Kia Forte, 2010
Kia Sorento, 2010
Kia Sportage, 2010
Kia Cadenza, 2011
Kia Optima, 2011
Kia Picanto/Morning, 2011
Kia Rio, 2011
Kia Cee'd, 2012

Yeah, but none of the nice looking Audis ;-)

[Wadeski]

Kia are killing it here in the USA. The last few years has seen them come on leaps and bounds. They are no longer just a "cheap choice".

[kambites]

AlpinaB5s said:

kambites said:

The seven year warranty is worth a fair bit, too.

the seven year warranty is essential, from what I hear from those I know who drive them.

Reliability will come eventually though and with the aesthetic and drivability inroads they are making into the market they will be very hard to ignore in 5 years time in certain markets.

Interesting. My experience has been the opposite. I'd trust Kia beyond another manufacturer in terms of reliability, and certainly far behind any of the German companies.

[Paul O]

The comments about the size of the lights made me chuckle!

I like it, looks great. A bit bland in white, but the tiger orange looks very good indeed.

Lets just hope that in 'competing' with the Scirocco they don't mean the price as well. That would be a smidge above ones station, I'd suggest.

[GhepardoGTS]

The recession could work as this car's advantage. If the engine is good enough the tuning community may embrace it with some aftermarket suspension/wheel/tire upgrades. I've driven an Optima recently and while it didn't make me happy as a driver, it did seem to make the passengers happy with its built quality and ride comfort.

[Tim16V]

Kia have done a great job with that.

Add in reasonable cost and good quality and they have a winner on their hands - more trouble for the European manufacturers.

[LuS1fer]

Can I also asy that the looks are very reminiscent of a bigger Fiesta though the Fiesta's recent restyle has diminished that.

[Speed_Demon]

Oooo not bad, not bad at all. Might this be the at that actually makes people realise most VAG cars are vastly over priced?

[pilchardthecat]

Never mind that. They need to make this;