RE: Spotted: Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth

RE: Spotted: Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth

Author
Discussion

Red 4

10,744 posts

187 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
quotequote all
heretheygo said:
this is for sale locally.
could find out how much if anyone is interested... neat private plate.



-Ford Focus RS500
-Only 500 in the world (this model 478/500)
-7000KM
Ford marketing at its finest

Roop

6,012 posts

284 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
quotequote all
Red 4 said:
Ford marketing brand dilution at its finest
Fixed that.

s m

23,215 posts

203 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
quotequote all
Roop said:
Red 4 said:
Ford marketing brand dilution at its finest
Fixed that.
It's a wrap....

Roop

6,012 posts

284 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
quotequote all
s m said:
It's a wrap....
hehe

mboon

955 posts

202 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
quotequote all
Is it true they all used to say the Cosworth was ran on better fuel but all the cosworths teams did was take there known good fuel with them from the UK where as others would get fuel in the location they was racing and end up with not as good a ron rating as the 500 boys?

Roop

6,012 posts

284 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
quotequote all
mboon said:
Is it true they all used to say the Cosworth was ran on better fuel but all the cosworths teams did was take there known good fuel with them from the UK where as others would get fuel in the location they was racing and end up with not as good a ron rating as the 500 boys?
I guess you're referring to the hoo ha at Bathurst in 87...? All teams ran on fuel supplied from the local pumps at the circuit including Egmo.

All cars run better on higher octane fuel. Higher octane means more advanced timing means more power. Turbocharged cars might even benefit more due to the forced induction and artificially higher compression ratio. I dunno.

CampDavid

9,145 posts

198 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
quotequote all
RS500 Registrar said:
Please show me a 200 that has sold for 100k plus ?
http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/19286/lot/439/

There you go.

Roop

6,012 posts

284 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
quotequote all
CampDavid said:
RS500 Registrar said:
Please show me a 200 that has sold for 100k plus ?
http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/19286/lot/439/

There you go.
This is lovely. Its not 125k worth IMHO but it's jolly nice.

Http://www.ronhodgson.co.uk.mobi.starkwood.co.uk/S...

CampDavid

9,145 posts

198 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
quotequote all
Roop said:
This is lovely. Its not 125k worth IMHO but it's jolly nice.
That's at auction. It'd retail for a vaste amount more than that.

To suggest that RS500s will overtake RS200s of a similar provenance at any point soon is a touch fanciful.

Roop

6,012 posts

284 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
quotequote all
CampDavid said:
Roop said:
This is lovely. Its not 125k worth IMHO but it's jolly nice.
That's at auction. It'd retail for a vaste amount more than that.

To suggest that RS500s will overtake RS200s of a similar provenance at any point soon is a touch fanciful.
Its a retail sale. confused

CampDavid

9,145 posts

198 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
quotequote all
Roop said:
CampDavid said:
Roop said:
This is lovely. Its not 125k worth IMHO but it's jolly nice.
That's at auction. It'd retail for a vaste amount more than that.

To suggest that RS500s will overtake RS200s of a similar provenance at any point soon is a touch fanciful.
Its a retail sale. confused
Ah, I thought you were refering to the one I posted!


hairykrishna

13,165 posts

203 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
quotequote all


Sold last year for >£130k

Baryonyx

17,994 posts

159 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
quotequote all
heretheygo said:
this is for sale locally.
could find out how much if anyone is interested... neat private plate.



-Ford Focus RS500
-Only 500 in the world (this model 478/500)
-7000KM
Not fit to hold a candle to a Cosworth.

J4CKO

41,448 posts

200 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
quotequote all
Baryonyx said:
heretheygo said:
this is for sale locally.
could find out how much if anyone is interested... neat private plate.



-Ford Focus RS500
-Only 500 in the world (this model 478/500)
-7000KM
Not fit to hold a candle to a Cosworth.
Based on what, I am kind of playing devils advocate here, the Focus RS would utterly destroy a Cosworth, RS500 or otherwise in every appreciable measure (standard cars), is it the fact it is new or the fact it is front wheel drive ? the first Focus RS has a devoted following and decent values, ok no racing pedigree but generally regarded as an enjoyable drive, I drove a standard Sapphire and was a bit dissapointed, it felt pretty crude and not as fast as I expected and I reckon I would enjoy a Focus RS more, more of the time, tuned is a different kettle of fish, Ford really should have done a 4wd RS Focus, cant understand how they could do a 4wd Cosworth in 1990 but not in 2012.


Baryonyx

17,994 posts

159 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
quotequote all
J4CKO said:
Based on what, I am kind of playing devils advocate here, the Focus RS would utterly destroy a Cosworth, RS500 or otherwise in every appreciable measure (standard cars), is it the fact it is new or the fact it is front wheel drive ?
No, the Focus can't beat the Sierra Cosworth on one key element: coolness. One is a tarted up FWD shopping hatch with a dismal McDonald's car park matte black paint job, the other is a Sierra Cosworth.

LARK F1 GTR

3,246 posts

146 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
quotequote all
The one that Ron Hodgson has in has been for sale for the past ten years or so.
Years ago I saw one for sale at a BMW dealers in Ilford, it was £75K which seemed a lot back then, but I reckon it would fetch a lot more now, maybe not £130K though.
hairykrishna said:


Sold last year for >£130k
I think that one's about 750BHP & is the one that Clarkson drives in one of his DVD's or something, he boots it, it comes on boost & he loses it...

Yep it is,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1Gqo0v2_2U

Edited by LARK F1 GTR on Thursday 4th October 17:15


Edited by LARK F1 GTR on Thursday 4th October 17:17

RWD cossie wil

4,308 posts

173 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
quotequote all
Baryonyx said:
No, the Focus can't beat the Sierra Cosworth on one key element: coolness. One is a tarted up FWD shopping hatch with a dismal McDonald's car park matte black paint job, the other is a Sierra Cosworth.
The man speaks sense! (also it is wrong wheel drive!)

DrTre

12,955 posts

232 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
quotequote all
630bhp said:
He is talking about performance wise, not looks! The RS500 might be a 'classic' and a schoolboy's dream car but sadly, when compared to modern cars, it's actual on-road performance is not that impressive.
"New car in better than 20 year old car non-shocker"
Pointless comparison in the context of desirability of one car vs another.

Gooly

965 posts

148 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
quotequote all
I'd bloody well hope so after 25 years! Still doesn't mean a thing though, I'd take the Sierra any day...

s m

23,215 posts

203 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
quotequote all
630bhp said:
The RS500 might be a 'classic' and a schoolboy's dream car but sadly, when compared to modern cars, it's actual on-road performance is not that impressive.
None of the homologation specials that are similar and were out at that time, be it RS500, Merc 190E Evolution 2 or BMW Evolution Sport have performance that is "impressive" these days for petrol heads.

They only do 153-155ish flat out and reach 100 in about the same time or very slightly quicker than an E46 BMW 330 which you can buy for 2k..............

This really isn't the reason people will pay 40k/50k upwards for one in excellent condition.