So, is your car fast?
Discussion
AC43 said:
On PH, however, there is a very different demographic where 200bhp/ton doesn't really cut it and you need to get past 300bhp/ton to be considered quick (I mean the figure not the person BTW). And even then the arms race quickly kicks in and you get cars with a vastly better power to weight ratio.
So, in summary, 170 bhp/ton probably puts me in the top 10% or ever 5% of road users but in that last 5% there is a massive way to go and many of those folks post here.
But the question was not is your car fast compared to the rest of PH.So, in summary, 170 bhp/ton probably puts me in the top 10% or ever 5% of road users but in that last 5% there is a massive way to go and many of those folks post here.
If your car is in the top 10% / 5% of road users, which it probably is, then you have what 90% of people consider a fast car. Therefore you have a fast car.
I suspect it is more people get used to their cars so they don't feel as fast as when they first got them so in their minds they are not fast....
Ben
Seems to be a bit of a trend going here.
We have people with really slow cars who willingly admit it.
People with genuinely (compared to most cars on the road) rapid cars who are being humble about the performance as although they have a quick car they know there is stuff out there to eat them alive.
People with distinctly average cars who are desperate to say they are quick in some way or another.
We have people with really slow cars who willingly admit it.
People with genuinely (compared to most cars on the road) rapid cars who are being humble about the performance as although they have a quick car they know there is stuff out there to eat them alive.
People with distinctly average cars who are desperate to say they are quick in some way or another.
AC43 said:
Well I think we'd need two versions - one which counts performance at any price (the Man City version) and the financial fair play version.
On the latter you divide the BHP/Tonne figure by the trade-in value of your car and multiply by 100.
Assuming the trade in value of mine is £7k I get a FFP number of 2.5. Enough to get into the Championship play offs, maybe.
(cue someone with a £1k supercharged Westfield to blow that theory out of the water)
I have a slightly tatty looking E36 328i SE 4-door saloon...On the latter you divide the BHP/Tonne figure by the trade-in value of your car and multiply by 100.
Assuming the trade in value of mine is £7k I get a FFP number of 2.5. Enough to get into the Championship play offs, maybe.
(cue someone with a £1k supercharged Westfield to blow that theory out of the water)
Probably worth circa £750 as a private sale and about £250 as a trade in...
It does have 193bhp, though, although I've not had it dyno'd it does feel like a strong engine...
Weighs 1400Kg
So:
138/250 x 100 = 55.2
My M3, though, has 220bhp, weighs 1250kg but the trade in value? no idea, but it must be around £7,000
176/7000 x 100 = 2.5
MocMocaMoc said:
I have a 106 GTi after driving a VX220 Turbo for years. The GTi is not 'fast', but it's equally as fun, and cost me 12 grand less...
I dare say I'd give any 'fast' car a run for its money cross country, but that's not the point.
I can't praise mine enough. I dare say I'd give any 'fast' car a run for its money cross country, but that's not the point.
Its a lovely little car. Great fun.
The 123d will be up for sale soon, I like the GTi more than it, and the GTis faster
Edit: Just realised I don't want this on the internet....
Edited by StottyZr on Friday 5th October 11:56
462hp Mustang GT is fast and feels fast. Though I have tickled its limits, I wouldn't really want anything faster that would give traction issues and spoil the fun or get too lairy.
Mondeo 2.0 isn't.
Fiesta ST is fast enough but not necessarily refined enough while it is being fast enough.
Mondeo 2.0 isn't.
Fiesta ST is fast enough but not necessarily refined enough while it is being fast enough.
I'll bite.
It's got seats, seatbelts and a steering wheel. There are pedals for clutch, brake and go. It's driven on a car license and insured as a car. It even has a boot.
What makes you think that "trike" and "car" are mutually exclusive? I don't think that anyone would argue against a Reliant Robin being a car, or against a Scammell Scarab being a lorry.
What about the Iseta bubble car? Or a Morgan 30's runabout?
There are trikes that clearly aren't cars; the Can am Spyder, the Paiggio MP3 or any Boom Trike.
It's got seats, seatbelts and a steering wheel. There are pedals for clutch, brake and go. It's driven on a car license and insured as a car. It even has a boot.
What makes you think that "trike" and "car" are mutually exclusive? I don't think that anyone would argue against a Reliant Robin being a car, or against a Scammell Scarab being a lorry.
What about the Iseta bubble car? Or a Morgan 30's runabout?
There are trikes that clearly aren't cars; the Can am Spyder, the Paiggio MP3 or any Boom Trike.
StottyZr said:
MocMocaMoc said:
I have a 106 GTi after driving a VX220 Turbo for years. The GTi is not 'fast', but it's equally as fun, and cost me 12 grand less...
I dare say I'd give any 'fast' car a run for its money cross country, but that's not the point.
I can't praise mine enough. I dare say I'd give any 'fast' car a run for its money cross country, but that's not the point.
Its a lovely little car. Great fun.
The 123d will be up for sale soon, I like the GTi more than it, and the GTis faster
Edit: Just realised I don't want this on the internet....
Edited by StottyZr on Friday 5th October 11:56
For PH I'm well down on bhp/ton though, at a measly 135.
FFP score? 135/1500*100, so about 90.
Roo3Stuart said:
I've just had a 2 day test drive in the new M5. Holy smoke, that is fast by any measure. Drop a gear, press throttle and it goes into warp speed with absolutely no drama or fuss. Awesome but scary!
2 day test drive... nice 
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