Advice on second car!
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Boaszay said:
triumph is too expensive 
You might need to try a few specialist insurers. Being a member of an owners club can often reduce insurance costs. I admit it's a few years since I was your age and I was 19 when I first got a Triumph. But at that time it cost less to insure than a Vauxhall Nova 1.4 would have.I had a 1.8 Astra G when I was 17, 0-60 in about 7.5-8 seconds, as you can watch here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGrZe4kJAiE
Got a lot of stick when I first posted that video on here a few years back
At 18 I had a Saxo VTS, 0-60 in about 7 seconds (clocked it at 6.66 once fully stripped out with a few mods
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGrZe4kJAiE
Got a lot of stick when I first posted that video on here a few years back
At 18 I had a Saxo VTS, 0-60 in about 7 seconds (clocked it at 6.66 once fully stripped out with a few mods
)300bhp/ton said:
You really are a grumpy sod aren't you.
What exactly as in something real do you actually object too? Or are you just a stuffy old fart who only buys boring hatchbacks like a Fiat Panda?
Good one. You've sure got the measure of me there. What exactly as in something real do you actually object too? Or are you just a stuffy old fart who only buys boring hatchbacks like a Fiat Panda?
I stand by my posts, you're an utter crackpot.
HustleRussell said:
Honestly, unless your an enthusiast willing to spend a significant amount of time and money maintaining one of 300BHP's suggestions, disregard them totally. These aren't like modern cars, they won't just work 24/7 with no attention apart from basic servicing.
By all means, feel free to go find a decent 318is- that is a spaceage machine compared to an old TVR or Triumph.
That all depends on what 318IS, an e30 is hardly that different. And apart from central locking EFI and electric windows an e36 isn't really all that different.By all means, feel free to go find a decent 318is- that is a spaceage machine compared to an old TVR or Triumph.
What I can say is, something like an old Triumph is hugely easy to work on and cheap to maintain. And in my experience reliable. Indeed I'd place my TR7 has having had less issues than either of my BMW's (an e30 and an e36) and significantly less rusty than the e36 too.
If you want you can spanner them yourself, but equally you could use any local indipendant mechanic, same as you would with most other £2k cars.
Lukerush0 said:
You may giggle at me but have a look at the Yaris T Sport, not something you see everyday and 0-60 in sub 10. Also 40 MPg is easily acheiveable and the drive is very involving! I like the looks of them too and cheap to insure. I am paying 1200 quid and I am 18 with no NCB.
Woah there, back up cowboy. This is now 300bhp/ton's thread, we'll have no sensible suggestions, thanks. Papa Hotel said:
300bhp/ton said:
You really are a grumpy sod aren't you.
What exactly as in something real do you actually object too? Or are you just a stuffy old fart who only buys boring hatchbacks like a Fiat Panda?
Good one. You've sure got the measure of me there. What exactly as in something real do you actually object too? Or are you just a stuffy old fart who only buys boring hatchbacks like a Fiat Panda?
I stand by my posts, you're an utter crackpot.
Yes using my own experience must indeed make me a crackpot....
Calm down guys. Any real car enthusiast would consider many of 300bhp's suggestions. I certainly looked at a lot of classics when I was choosing a car. People just need to relax. We all have equal weight. Ultimately the OP will go for what he wants.
Have a read of this if you're unsure about classic cars. Great thread.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Have a read of this if you're unsure about classic cars. Great thread.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
300bhp/ton said:
That all depends on what 318IS, an e30 is hardly that different. And apart from central locking EFI and electric windows an e36 isn't really all that different.
Yeah you're right, a fuel injected BMW made in the last 20 years is basically the same proposition as an old V8 Triumph, TVR or kit car Rue the day someone takes 300BHP's advice...
300bhp/ton said:
I'm a crackpot because I recommend something different to norm, yet two of the cars listed are ones which I've personally owned (one at 17 and one at 19) so have used them for the exact thing the OP is asking for?
Yes using my own experience must indeed make me a crackpot....
Yes, you're a crackpot. You pull this nonsense out in every What Car? thread. Yes using my own experience must indeed make me a crackpot....
"I had this at 19, that at 19, another at 19."
You know, the problem with buying V12 Jaguars and ratty Triumphs as a teenager is that you soon know you've made a mistake. What else did you have as a teenager? Please, tell us your story. Again.
danjama said:
Calm down guys. Any real car enthusiast would consider many of 300bhp's suggestions. I certainly looked at a lot of classics when I was choosing a car. People just need to relax. We all have equal weight. Ultimately the OP will go for what he wants.
Yes people are all different- but considering the OP didn't indicate any inclination at all to own a 'classic' or put in the effort that entails, and simply wants a car to a certain budget that does 0-60 in 10 seconds or less, I probably wouldn't be suggesting old british stuff.doogz said:
I kinda bang on about it a bit these days, but I fecking love my MK3 MR2. Bought 6 months ago for £1800, and other than doing the weekly shop, it seems to be great at everything. I use it every day at the moment, I've done some hillclimbing, some trackdays, I took it offroading yesterday, which it was actually excellent at, given it's a dinky RWD roadster. 40+mpg average (mostly motorways atm, at 50-60) will do 0-60 in 7-ish, handling is great fun, they seem to be reliable enough if you address a couple of minor issues that can cause problems if left unnattended.
Bit camp looking right enough, depends if you give a crap what anyone else thinks. I don't.
And alternatively a mk2 mr2. Non turbo of course. Easily does 60 under 10 seconds, and is constantly fun and interesting to drive daily.Bit camp looking right enough, depends if you give a crap what anyone else thinks. I don't.
HustleRussell said:
300bhp/ton said:
That all depends on what 318IS, an e30 is hardly that different. And apart from central locking EFI and electric windows an e36 isn't really all that different.
Yeah you're right, a fuel injected BMW made in the last 20 years is basically the same proposition as an old V8 Triumph, TVR or kit car Rue the day someone takes 300BHP's advice...
HustleRussell said:
danjama said:
Calm down guys. Any real car enthusiast would consider many of 300bhp's suggestions. I certainly looked at a lot of classics when I was choosing a car. People just need to relax. We all have equal weight. Ultimately the OP will go for what he wants.
Yes people are all different- but considering the OP didn't indicate any inclination at all to own a 'classic' or put in the effort that entails, and simply wants a car to a certain budget that does 0-60 in 10 seconds or less, I probably wouldn't be suggesting old british stuff.300bhp/ton said:
Exactly how different is a TR7 from an e36 then.. I mean what exactly is going to make it difficult to use or keep?
Lack of "manufacturer still being in business" for one. It'll be at least ten years older than the BMW.
It was bodged together by a second-rate workers in a second-rate factory.
Spares won't be plentiful nor cheap.
Just four things, this list is not exhaustible.
doogz said:
Much better looking too IMO. Passed one the other day, an H plate. They've aged well. Not quite as well as the RX-7, still one of the best looking cars ever made IMO, but for a 20 year old car, they still look great.
Couldn't agree more on both points. An RX-7 FD would be my dream car I think. But my MR2 is the next best alternative, and attainable. I can't stop looking at her!
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