E90 M3 or 996 Turbo

[gigjam]

tyrewrecker said:

Maybe I worded that wrong haha in comparison to the other car in the running

[DukeDickson]

gigjam said:

The m3 is a great car, but not that fast.

the turbo is swift stock and with a tune and bolt-ons it can be properly quick

Presumably the Bimmer would be somewhat rapid with aftermarket tickling as well - more expensive to achieve but possibly more dramatic. Revvy V8 & supercharger/turbo (mind you, s'pose it might not work as well as we might think).

Don't seem to be massively different as standard and in a straight line, at least in Blighty terms. Not bad for a smallish, practical car IMHO.

[David A]

996T every time.

[JackTheLaddddd]

Would be the M3 for me

[projectgt]

Interesting, opinions are decided but the majority in favour of the 996 Turbo.

I probably should have stated practicality isn't a consideration.

[crazy about cars]

I see a few 996 Turbos on the classifieds with PCCB brakes and they do look nice. Heard one up close too and they sound great! If practicality is not an issue and you won't be doing high mileage I would go for the Pork.

[tyrewrecker]

crazy about cars said:

I see a few 996 Turbos on the classifieds with PCCB brakes and they do look nice. Heard one up close too and they sound great! If practicality is not an issue and you won't be doing high mileage I would go for the Pork.

How reliable are these porks

[crazy about cars]

tyrewrecker said:

How reliable are these porks

Not really done any research but apparently early 996 tubbys have weak engines? Personally I'm not a big fan of the styling but they do seem like value for money these days? I would love a 997.2 Turbo is that's still mega bucks

[Bonefish Blues]

crazy about cars said:

tyrewrecker said:

How reliable are these porks

Not really done any research but apparently early 996 tubbys have weak engines? Personally I'm not a big fan of the styling but they do seem like value for money these days? I would love a 997.2 Turbo is that's still mega bucks

Not that I'm aware - you're confusing it with the non-GT3 na engines, I think.

Quick guide http://www.evo.co.uk/buying/buyingguide/235617/por...

[caraddict]

Bonefish Blues said:

crazy about cars said:

tyrewrecker said:

How reliable are these porks

Not really done any research but apparently early 996 tubbys have weak engines? Personally I'm not a big fan of the styling but they do seem like value for money these days? I would love a 997.2 Turbo is that's still mega bucks

Not that I'm aware - you're confusing it with the non-GT3 na engines, I think.

Quick guide http://www.evo.co.uk/buying/buyingguide/235617/por...

Yes, the base Carrera engine is different to the much stronger 996 Turbo and GT3 engines (which are based on the GT1 block, IIRC?).

Many owners with 100.000+ miles cars. 996 Turbos are built for abuse and daily driving.

[EvoSlayer]

tyrewrecker said:

How reliable are these porks

Pretty tough, had mine for 5 1/2 years now, and has been close to 600hp for most of that time. Usual areas for attention are the 3 water radiators and 2 air-con condensors up front due to stone damage and corrosion from rotting vegetation trapped in there.

Clutch accumulator is another common failure but only an 80 quid part, clutches can last anywhere from 30k to 70k+ depending on driving style and whether or not you decide to turn the wick up.

Rest is mainly consumables..brakes, tyres etc (rear rubber can be pricey).
Imo you'd be really unlucky suffer major engine or gearbox issues.

They're no more difficult than anything else to work on if you can twirl the spanners, though it helps if you have good access to the underneath as most jobs are tackled from here. There's no black art involved as some would lead you to believe and charge accordingly!

Do your research, buy wisely and drive the performance bargain of the decade.

crazy about cars said:

Not really done any research but apparently early 996 tubbys have weak engines?

Really?

[Welshbeef]

crazy about cars said:

Not really done any research but apparently early 996 tubbys have weak engines? (

I'm I think your quite wrong on that point.
The 996TT uses a different engine to all other 996's its based on te GT1 block and is very unstressed. Whereas the 996 Carrera 3.4 ltr had RMS issues this IIRC is simply a seal between the engine and gearbox it is tuppence but can wear out on early models and thus leak oil and some owners isn't check oil levels leading to engine damage.

[gigjam]

tyrewrecker said:

How reliable are these porks

good friend of mine has been running his modified 996tt for I want to say 60-70K now with lots of track time and has never had any major issues.

[Rushmore]

The Turbo will remain a 911. The M3 will become an old BMW. Think about it.

[tyrewrecker]

shirleynot said:

I would have the Porsche all day long.....the M3 has that horrible 'chav driver' reputation and will depreciate like crazy.

You are worried about chav image and bought a GTR?

[Welshbeef]

Rushmore said:

The Turbo will remain a 911. The M3 will become an old BMW. Think about it.

Nail hammer.

[Olivera]

The 996 Turbo is no doubt the faster point to point vehicle, but the M3 has a better interior, is more practical, will cost less to run, has better throttle response, sounds better, and perhaps controversially, is a better drivers car.

[ninjacost]

get the 996tt get it remapped and the m3 would look like it had the handbrake on ive had 2 and they are very rapid point to point cars :-)

[crazy about cars]

Sorry about my mistake then Must've confused it with the N/A engine. I had a quick peek in the classifieds and must say they are a bargain for the price ... Turbo porks are pretty quick !

Edit : OP sorry for the hijack but it seems there are some Porsche enthusiasts here. Can you guys recommend a good UK forum? I might be interested in owning one but due to my lack if knowledge bout PorksI would like to educate my self first

Edited by crazy about cars on Sunday 14th October 20:15

[caraddict]

ninjacost said:

get the 996tt get it remapped and the m3 would look like it had the handbrake on ive had 2 and they are very rapid point to point cars :-)

And add a supercharger to the E90 M3 (600 hp) and you will start pissing off supercar owners...