RE: Fiesta ST prices & specs revealed

[AdamC1983]

Podie said:

Have a vague recollection that the 1.7 Puma had something similar...

Yes the puma has a plastic resonating box attached to the inside of the bonnet which i still dont really know the full purpose, talking of pumas im selling my racing puma to buy one of these new fiesta st's, just torn between which colour to get, ive narrowed it down to spirit blue, molten orange or frozen white but cant decide.

Im loving it in spirit blue more right now.





Very similar to the racing puma colour imperial blue.

Edited by AdamC1983 on Sunday 3rd February 09:42

[Podie]

White and orange are fashion colours IMO, blue always sells well on a Ford.

[Hitch78]

Blue.

[oobster]

Hitch78 said:

We're moving to Oz in a couple of weeks and I've just read that they're getting the 5 door, which would make this a perfect commuter car for me.

5-door in red is smart, pity they (apparently) aren't bringing the 5-door to the UK.

[davey68]

I love white on the zetec S model but I have to say that blue colour looks fantastic!

[Digitalize]

The Blue does look almost identical to Imperial/Performance Blue.

[Ecosseven]

Looks great in blue. This will certainly be an option for my next daily driver once it gets to 2 years old.

[KingNothing]

Looks good, think someone needs to blat that rear ST badge with a shrink ray though, looks a tad big IMO.

[1974foggy]

Robmarriott said:

I'll have mine in a few years please, with a box full of pre facelift front end parts.

With you on that- the facelift is dodgy with that aston grille, although worse on the lesser models. Reminds me of the Cygnet. Much prettier before, Fords designers seem to be losing it a bit in the last year.

[Emeye]

oobster said:

5-door in red is smart, pity they (apparently) aren't bringing the 5-door to the UK.

It seems almost impossible to buy a brand new reasonably priced hot hatch with 5 doors and a manual box in the UK! Only the Peugeot 20whatever seems to have that spec, but isn't it going be expensive and potentially rubbish to drive?

A 5 door Fiesta ST would be the perfect car for me if they drive as good as the reviews claim. I can't see why Ford are not giving the UK the 5 door option.

I've had a 3dr mk5 Golf Gti and then a 5dr when I had kids, and secondhand the 5drs always sell better and therefore cost a bit more.

Talking prices, just over 4 years ago I bought a 7 month old golf gti 3dr from a main dealer for £15k!!

[BadBanshee]

1974foggy said:

With you on that- the facelift is dodgy with that aston grille, although worse on the lesser models. Reminds me of the Cygnet. Much prettier before, Fords designers seem to be losing it a bit in the last year.

I agree that the grille looks worse on lesser models. On the ST though, it suits the aggressive character.

[HighwayStar]

Emeye said:

It seems almost impossible to buy a brand new reasonably priced hot hatch with 5 doors and a manual box in the UK! Only the Peugeot 20whatever seems to have that spec, but isn't it going be expensive and potentially rubbish to drive?

A 5 door Fiesta ST would be the perfect car for me if they drive as good as the reviews claim. I can't see why Ford are not giving the UK the 5 door option.

I've had a 3dr mk5 Golf Gti and then a 5dr when I had kids, and secondhand the 5drs always sell better and therefore cost a bit more.

Talking prices, just over 4 years ago I bought a 7 month old golf gti 3dr from a main dealer for £15k!!

Autocar (and other mags undoubtedly) have said they'll be driving the 208 GTi in the next few weeks so you'll get your answer soon. Autoexpress had their man passenger in it in this weeks mag and were impressed but I am never sure of their reviews. If the 208 turns out to be a return to form you're still stuffed... you seem to be implying it's a 5 door. It's not.
The Clio is a 5 door but does look expensive.

[HighwayStar]

BadBanshee said:

1974foggy said:

With you on that- the facelift is dodgy with that aston grille, although worse on the lesser models. Reminds me of the Cygnet. Much prettier before, Fords designers seem to be losing it a bit in the last year.

I agree that the grille looks worse on lesser models. On the ST though, it suits the aggressive character.

I'm no Ford fan but their cars are obviously very good though I'd never buy one. The Fiesta looked good and I'd had no problem recommending one to someone looking for a small car. The face lift just looks wrong though, the Aston stylee grill just looks wrong, heavy and almost aftermarket.
When Ford were challenged about the new Mondeo having an Aston grill they said, we paid for it, we'll used it. They're using it!

[LuS1fer]

I think more people will buy the Fiesta ST simply because the Focus ST is so gopping. The Focus also seems to be flawed in several areas like torque steer so needs it's lower price against the rivals - many of which are still ugly but not totally gopping.

[Podie]

Somewhat amusing that people are complaining there is no 3 door Focus, and no 5 door Fiesta...

[Emeye]

HighwayStar said:

Autocar (and other mags undoubtedly) have said they'll be driving the 208 GTi in the next few weeks so you'll get your answer soon. Autoexpress had their man passenger in it in this weeks mag and were impressed but I am never sure of their reviews. If the 208 turns out to be a return to form you're still stuffed... you seem to be implying it's a 5 door. It's not.
The Clio is a 5 door but does look expensive.

I cold have sworn I read somewhere there would be a five door 208. The Clio is an auto. An auto, in a hot hatch?! Wrong.

[LuS1fer]

Emeye said:

I cold have sworn I read somewhere there would be a five door 208. The Clio is an auto. An auto, in a hot hatch?! Wrong.

Like the Porsche GT3...

[GroundEffect]

Emeye said:

HighwayStar said:

Autocar (and other mags undoubtedly) have said they'll be driving the 208 GTi in the next few weeks so you'll get your answer soon. Autoexpress had their man passenger in it in this weeks mag and were impressed but I am never sure of their reviews. If the 208 turns out to be a return to form you're still stuffed... you seem to be implying it's a 5 door. It's not.
The Clio is a 5 door but does look expensive.

I cold have sworn I read somewhere there would be a five door 208. The Clio is an auto. An auto, in a hot hatch?! Wrong.

It's not an auto. It's an automated manual. Very different technologies.

[Emeye]

GroundEffect said:

Emeye said:

HighwayStar said:

Autocar (and other mags undoubtedly) have said they'll be driving the 208 GTi in the next few weeks so you'll get your answer soon. Autoexpress had their man passenger in it in this weeks mag and were impressed but I am never sure of their reviews. If the 208 turns out to be a return to form you're still stuffed... you seem to be implying it's a 5 door. It's not.
The Clio is a 5 door but does look expensive.

I cold have sworn I read somewhere there would be a five door 208. The Clio is an auto. An auto, in a hot hatch?! Wrong.

It's not an auto. It's an automated manual. Very different technologies.

Auto is short for automatic or automated manual. It doesn't have a clutch pedal and it will change gear when it wants, even in manual mode. I've driven plenty of DSG VWs and hated them. It just robs you of the involvement. I can maybe see the appeal of a racing style sequential box in a racing car or a supercar when you are properly on one, and I've driven a racing Clio with a sequential box at Bedford Autodrome, but clicking a switch behind the steering wheel and then having the car decide it is time to change up or down as it knows better is not in my opinion fun, especially at normal speeds.

[GroundEffect]

Emeye said:

GroundEffect said:

Emeye said:

HighwayStar said:

Autocar (and other mags undoubtedly) have said they'll be driving the 208 GTi in the next few weeks so you'll get your answer soon. Autoexpress had their man passenger in it in this weeks mag and were impressed but I am never sure of their reviews. If the 208 turns out to be a return to form you're still stuffed... you seem to be implying it's a 5 door. It's not.
The Clio is a 5 door but does look expensive.

I cold have sworn I read somewhere there would be a five door 208. The Clio is an auto. An auto, in a hot hatch?! Wrong.

It's not an auto. It's an automated manual. Very different technologies.

Auto is short for automatic or automated manual. It doesn't have a clutch pedal and it will change gear when it wants, even in manual mode. I've driven plenty of DSG VWs and hated them. It just robs you of the involvement. I can maybe see the appeal of a racing style sequential box in a racing car or a supercar when you are properly on one, and I've driven a racing Clio with a sequential box at Bedford Autodrome, but clicking a switch behind the steering wheel and then having the car decide it is time to change up or down as it knows better is not in my opinion fun, especially at normal speeds.

But from a technical standpoint, an automated manual (a modern one) is a far better prospect than an auto for 'spirited' driving.