RE: Lotus Exige S Roadster: Review
Discussion
chevronb37 said:
The thing is absolutely batsh*t mental, the way it covers the ground is borderline unhinged.
In fact the primary issue with the V6 Exige is how on earth one might manage to retain one's licence in one. I've never driven anything else which makes it so easy to cover the ground at prison sentence speeds.
^^^^ Absolutely this!! Astounding machine! Sheer speed for the money is beyond any doubt! (Un)fortunately common sense got the better of me.... In fact the primary issue with the V6 Exige is how on earth one might manage to retain one's licence in one. I've never driven anything else which makes it so easy to cover the ground at prison sentence speeds.
jerrytlr said:
Why?
I don't get it. Lotus depreciation is relatively low, pricing is similar....
Absolutely - in fact Lotuses tend to drop a bit, find their price and stay there, whereas Porsches seem to fall into the wrong hands and deteriorate. Look at the prices of S1 Elises compared to S1 Boxsters, and Excels versus 944s before them. Esprits and 911s seem to keep pace with each other, used-price-wise, and I see the Exige V6 as an Esprit successor of sorts.I don't get it. Lotus depreciation is relatively low, pricing is similar....
DJRC said:
Lotus have reinvented the ferrari 3x8GTS line. Its that simple.
For £50k it is staggering value and its the Alfa 4C's worst nightmare.
Lotus would have my order already if they werent in deep s
t and had a prospective future. Now, their future looks a little rosier, but I will still bide my time thankyou. Ive put my hand in my pocket to try and help out one British sportscar company, not doing it again, esp when they arent from Blackpool 
I bet the 4c will outsell it. As a Lotus enthusiast, my deposit is with Alfa - love the looks of the Exige S, don't think I could live with itFor £50k it is staggering value and its the Alfa 4C's worst nightmare.
Lotus would have my order already if they werent in deep s
t and had a prospective future. Now, their future looks a little rosier, but I will still bide my time thankyou. Ive put my hand in my pocket to try and help out one British sportscar company, not doing it again, esp when they arent from Blackpool chickensoup said:
I bet the 4c will outsell it. As a Lotus enthusiast, my deposit is with Alfa - love the looks of the Exige S, don't think I could live with it
What would be the difficulty? Do you imagine it would be intolerable in the sort of everyday bog standard heavily trafficked driving that makes up most peoples' daily commute, you expect it to fal apart quicker than an Alfa, be more troublesome, depreciate faster - or something else about it?Regarding the roof (I am an S2 Exige owner with the soft-top conversion fitted):
The new one has the same roof fixings as the S2 to the best of my knowledge/experience seeing them at the dealership.
A standard S2 Exige has the hard-top roof. It is bolted in with two bolts at the front, two at the rear and two "cover panel" sections, one front one rear, which bolt on covering the join and further securing it.
The hard-top roof can be removed in about 5-10 minutes single handedly with a bit of practice.
It doesn't fit in the boot obviously!
The soft-top conversion allows you to put the Elise fabric roof in instead.
Conversion consists of drilling/cutting two channels in the rear of the roof mount section, into which fit the two "ribs" which support the fabric roof section. IT can be self done if you're brave about taking a dremel to your car.
The fixings of the fabric roof click into the existing bolt hols front and back to secure it.
Fabric roof can go on/off in 2 minutes with practice and does fit in the boot.
The new one has the same roof fixings as the S2 to the best of my knowledge/experience seeing them at the dealership.
A standard S2 Exige has the hard-top roof. It is bolted in with two bolts at the front, two at the rear and two "cover panel" sections, one front one rear, which bolt on covering the join and further securing it.
The hard-top roof can be removed in about 5-10 minutes single handedly with a bit of practice.
It doesn't fit in the boot obviously!
The soft-top conversion allows you to put the Elise fabric roof in instead.
Conversion consists of drilling/cutting two channels in the rear of the roof mount section, into which fit the two "ribs" which support the fabric roof section. IT can be self done if you're brave about taking a dremel to your car.
The fixings of the fabric roof click into the existing bolt hols front and back to secure it.
Fabric roof can go on/off in 2 minutes with practice and does fit in the boot.
Not really a fan. 53k for 0-60 in sub 4 is good, but this includes compromises for seating multiple people.
A Litchfield subaru will be just as quick, for 40k, and give you 4 doors, and a big boot.
Alternatively, the second hand market has plenty to offer. I've seen some GTR's at 40k that are positively tasty, with a few upgrades.
This?
Pass.
A Litchfield subaru will be just as quick, for 40k, and give you 4 doors, and a big boot.
Alternatively, the second hand market has plenty to offer. I've seen some GTR's at 40k that are positively tasty, with a few upgrades.
This?
Pass.
Ozzie Osmond said:
chevronb37 said:
The thing is absolutely batsh*t mental, the way it covers the ground is borderline unhinged.
In fact the primary issue with the V6 Exige is how on earth one might manage to retain one's licence in one. I've never driven anything else which makes it so easy to cover the ground at prison sentence speeds.
^^^^ Absolutely this!! Astounding machine! Sheer speed for the money is beyond any doubt! (Un)fortunately common sense got the better of me.... In fact the primary issue with the V6 Exige is how on earth one might manage to retain one's licence in one. I've never driven anything else which makes it so easy to cover the ground at prison sentence speeds.
Twincam16 said:
jerrytlr said:
Why?
I don't get it. Lotus depreciation is relatively low, pricing is similar....
Absolutely - in fact Lotuses tend to drop a bit, find their price and stay there, whereas Porsches seem to fall into the wrong hands and deteriorate. Look at the prices of S1 Elises compared to S1 Boxsters, and Excels versus 944s before them. Esprits and 911s seem to keep pace with each other, used-price-wise, and I see the Exige V6 as an Esprit successor of sorts.I don't get it. Lotus depreciation is relatively low, pricing is similar....
Lotus build quality has never really matched there competitors, they have always done best, when selling for a lower price and offering more performance for it
The Esprit Turbo SE was a good example and was one of the higher selling varients of that car.
The Elise, was too when it first came out, (offering decent enough go even in 120hp trim, with a very tuneable engine) till they forgot about everyone else makeing there cars faster, which resulted in almost no progress in the base cars (once a big seller in the range) performance till they finished it off with a 1.6, that barely had the leg's on a 2 litre MX5, sales were dire despite it being the only elise on sale
This is the first car, since then that actually offers a lot more pace than say a similarly priced porsche, the Evora's nice but does not have either a significant price advantage or lots more performance than a typical porshce, having cayman level performance for a cayman level price
I like it, Lotus needs more cars like this IMO
The Esprit Turbo SE was a good example and was one of the higher selling varients of that car.
The Elise, was too when it first came out, (offering decent enough go even in 120hp trim, with a very tuneable engine) till they forgot about everyone else makeing there cars faster, which resulted in almost no progress in the base cars (once a big seller in the range) performance till they finished it off with a 1.6, that barely had the leg's on a 2 litre MX5, sales were dire despite it being the only elise on sale
This is the first car, since then that actually offers a lot more pace than say a similarly priced porsche, the Evora's nice but does not have either a significant price advantage or lots more performance than a typical porshce, having cayman level performance for a cayman level price
I like it, Lotus needs more cars like this IMO
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...
Modern asking price of Lotus models is bonkers ... I was lucky to buy new in 2002 and loved my 135 ... If in the market I'd rather buy something like the attached link and save the ££££
Back to basics please Lotus, it's why we loved you in the first place!
Modern asking price of Lotus models is bonkers ... I was lucky to buy new in 2002 and loved my 135 ... If in the market I'd rather buy something like the attached link and save the ££££
Back to basics please Lotus, it's why we loved you in the first place!
unpc said:
Am I the only one who thinks this is spectacular VFM? OK the ingress egress issue is still a pain but this is GT3 fast and a Boxster/Cayman wouldn't see which way this went. I'd buy one in a heart beat if I could get it past Mrs UNPC .
That's how I see it too, it may not be a brilliant all rounder, instead they have focused on speed and handling. Its a far better argument for a weekend toy than a Boxster, because it is more of a toy!big_rob_sydney said:
Not really a fan. 53k for 0-60 in sub 4 is good, but this includes compromises for seating multiple people.
A Litchfield subaru will be just as quick, for 40k, and give you 4 doors, and a big boot.
Alternatively, the second hand market has plenty to offer. I've seen some GTR's at 40k that are positively tasty, with a few upgrades.
This?
Pass.
It looks better.A Litchfield subaru will be just as quick, for 40k, and give you 4 doors, and a big boot.
Alternatively, the second hand market has plenty to offer. I've seen some GTR's at 40k that are positively tasty, with a few upgrades.
This?
Pass.
Its a roadster.
It handles better.
It rides better.
It DOESNT seat 4 ppl.
People look at you and dont think "there goes a complete
"Nobody ever bought a Lotus because of its 0-60 time ffs.
All I would say is "go and drive the cars". Then decide where to spend your £50k.
Hopefully Lotus can find customers willing to part with hard cash to accompany the internet enthusiasm. My local dealer has a number of Exige S in stock. Also low mileage Evoras at only two thirds of new price - so get yer money out!
Hopefully Lotus can find customers willing to part with hard cash to accompany the internet enthusiasm. My local dealer has a number of Exige S in stock. Also low mileage Evoras at only two thirds of new price - so get yer money out!
big_rob_sydney said:
Not really a fan. 53k for 0-60 in sub 4 is good, but this includes compromises for seating multiple people.
A Litchfield subaru will be just as quick, for 40k, and give you 4 doors, and a big boot.
Alternatively, the second hand market has plenty to offer. I've seen some GTR's at 40k that are positively tasty, with a few upgrades.
This?
Pass.
Is this going to be another thread where you argue that the Impreza is the alpha and the omega of automotive perfection?A Litchfield subaru will be just as quick, for 40k, and give you 4 doors, and a big boot.
Alternatively, the second hand market has plenty to offer. I've seen some GTR's at 40k that are positively tasty, with a few upgrades.
This?
Pass.
Rawwr said:
big_rob_sydney said:
Not really a fan. 53k for 0-60 in sub 4 is good, but this includes compromises for seating multiple people.
A Litchfield subaru will be just as quick, for 40k, and give you 4 doors, and a big boot.
Alternatively, the second hand market has plenty to offer. I've seen some GTR's at 40k that are positively tasty, with a few upgrades.
This?
Pass.
Is this going to be another thread where you argue that the Impreza is the alpha and the omega of automotive perfection?A Litchfield subaru will be just as quick, for 40k, and give you 4 doors, and a big boot.
Alternatively, the second hand market has plenty to offer. I've seen some GTR's at 40k that are positively tasty, with a few upgrades.
This?
Pass.
Same for the GTR. Now I am a massive fan of the GTR ( intend to buy one ) but, again, it is plain daft to even mention the GT-R and the Exige in the same sentence. You may as well compare the Exige to a Range Rover, the comparison is just as silly.
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