RE: Isdera Imperator 108i: Time for Tea?

RE: Isdera Imperator 108i: Time for Tea?

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Maldini35

2,913 posts

172 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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Top marks to the owner clap

405dogvan

5,326 posts

249 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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Periscopes were actually not a bad idea - a wide-angle rear-view-mirror OUTSIDE the car - problem is keeping them from fogging and integrating them into the lines of the car...

A few cars have tried them over the years tho - it's just one of those things where looks ruled out practicality I think.

Looks a bit of a soggy steer tbh - but stationary it's lovely smile

scubadude

2,618 posts

181 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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Wonderful, lovely noise and personally think it still looks good. Time is sometimes cruel on older styling ideas but this just seems to work.

I think this has gone into my Top 5 car sounds list :-)

flashygee

127 posts

195 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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http://www.classicdriver.com/de/car/isdera/imperat...

A Later Car with a more realistic Price-900k are too much for it.

leghorn

48 posts

152 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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Should have been the Back To The Future car instead of the DeLorean

Digger

13,437 posts

175 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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Marvin Trill said:
Always prefer the Isdera Commendatore. Beautiful.
Just looked it up . . . very F1'ish.

Jimmy Riviera

279 posts

213 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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This was in the car park at the hotel in Stavelot I stayed at on Tuesday night, along with a 599 GTO and Aventador so it was in good company. I did pull in to the car park muttering "What the hell is that?". Sadly all cars gone by the time I got up for breakfast. Crazy looking thing.

Gorbyrev

1,144 posts

138 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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GranCab said:
James1972 said:
Popping the door on the run into the pits - just how cool can you get ? cool
...and the video stops just before one of the pit crew is decapitated wink
That will be a Big Mac medium meal with diet Coke please rofl Merc V8's fettled by AMG are the biz just like the C63 I heard yesterday at McDonalds - there is a theme going on here!

kiteless

10,954 posts

188 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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Looks-wise, it reminds me very much of the Vector W8 scratchchin


isderaimperator

5 posts

117 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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Hello,

I am the owner and driver of this Isdera Imperator 108i AMG 6.0-32V

To correct the story:
Eberhard Schulz built his first car before 1968, the ERATOR. With this he drove to Mercedes and Porsche and applied for a job. With this "driving application" Erator all doors were open for him. He decided to work for Porsche.

But in his spare time, the Mercedesfan Schulz was working on his interpretation of a new sportscar which united the legendary 300SL and the Study C111 (that came out in 1968): His Mercedes study CW 311

in the late 70s he moved to bb (buchman Brothers) and brought his almost finished CW 311. Together they presented the CW 311 in 1979. Before that, they presented it to Chiefs of Mercedes, who liked it very much. So they allowed Eberhard Schulz to use the Mercedes badge; the star. This never happend before, that a study, that was not built at the factory, had that honor.

Another reason could also be, that they could get an eyecather at the motorshow for free, specially, because BMW would present their new M1. Comparing M1 and CW 311, the M1 was a dinosaur.

Mr. Schulz was very confident of his car and started his own business, of course, with the plans of his car. He founded Isdera and refined his CW 311, quickly developed the ISDERA Spyder as well and began the production of Isdera imperator 108i in 1983.

The car had either the 500 or 560 Mercedes engine from the S-Class. Because of his good relations to AMG (for which he has made many things, such as the AMG badge and the racecar "Mampe SLC"), Isdera offered also AMG V8 engines.

My vehicle (No. 14 of 17 of the first series) was originally delivered with a strong 300hp 560 engine. After an engine failure, a strong engine from AMG of that time was installed during the restoration. All operations were performed by Isdera.

The smoke which was visible in the "Nordschleife" vid, was caused by contact from the tyre with the inner fender. That fender was repaired in the late 80ies after an accident. Unfortunatley it was made wrong. There is the airintake for the aircondition inside. There, the tyre touched. Meanwhile this mistake was corrected by ISDERA.

Indeed, the suspension is very soft. At that time (1984) they wanted a more comfortable GT sports-tourer, while the CW 311 was a real sports racer. Also, the suspensoion is still original and old. We will look after it in the next time.

... and don´t worry, the gullwingdoors are opening direktly upright. You can park directly next to another car, without touching it, when open the doors. Nobody will be killed.

excuse my bad english

mondeoman

11,367 posts

250 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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isderaimperator said:
Hello,

I am the owner and driver of this Isdera Imperator 108i AMG 6.0-32V
and that is all we needed to know smile
clapclapclapclapclap

Pat H

7,980 posts

240 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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It is wonderful to see something like that actually being used properly.

Fantastic stuff.

smile

Rouleur

6,744 posts

173 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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Is there a make or model of car that someone on here doesn't own?! I salute you for owning and driving properly such a special car.

F1GTRUeno

5,674 posts

202 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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Prime example of an enthusiast buying a car that should be owned by enthusiasts and driven accordingly.

Now if only someone would make the old Swiss coot an offer for the Commendatore/112i and then drive that regularly we'd be sorted.

Carnnoisseur

531 posts

138 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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Completely in awe, such a fascinating read!!!


isderaimperator said:
Hello,

I am the owner and driver of this Isdera Imperator 108i AMG 6.0-32V

To correct the story:
Eberhard Schulz built his first car before 1968, the ERATOR. With this he drove to Mercedes and Porsche and applied for a job. With this "driving application" Erator all doors were open for him. He decided to work for Porsche.

But in his spare time, the Mercedesfan Schulz was working on his interpretation of a new sportscar which united the legendary 300SL and the Study C111 (that came out in 1968): His Mercedes study CW 311

in the late 70s he moved to bb (buchman Brothers) and brought his almost finished CW 311. Together they presented the CW 311 in 1979. Before that, they presented it to Chiefs of Mercedes, who liked it very much. So they allowed Eberhard Schulz to use the Mercedes badge; the star. This never happend before, that a study, that was not built at the factory, had that honor.

Another reason could also be, that they could get an eyecather at the motorshow for free, specially, because BMW would present their new M1. Comparing M1 and CW 311, the M1 was a dinosaur.

Mr. Schulz was very confident of his car and started his own business, of course, with the plans of his car. He founded Isdera and refined his CW 311, quickly developed the ISDERA Spyder as well and began the production of Isdera imperator 108i in 1983.

The car had either the 500 or 560 Mercedes engine from the S-Class. Because of his good relations to AMG (for which he has made many things, such as the AMG badge and the racecar "Mampe SLC"), Isdera offered also AMG V8 engines.

My vehicle (No. 14 of 17 of the first series) was originally delivered with a strong 300hp 560 engine. After an engine failure, a strong engine from AMG of that time was installed during the restoration. All operations were performed by Isdera.

The smoke which was visible in the "Nordschleife" vid, was caused by contact from the tyre with the inner fender. That fender was repaired in the late 80ies after an accident. Unfortunatley it was made wrong. There is the airintake for the aircondition inside. There, the tyre touched. Meanwhile this mistake was corrected by ISDERA.

Indeed, the suspension is very soft. At that time (1984) they wanted a more comfortable GT sports-tourer, while the CW 311 was a real sports racer. Also, the suspensoion is still original and old. We will look after it in the next time.

... and don´t worry, the gullwingdoors are opening direktly upright. You can park directly next to another car, without touching it, when open the doors. Nobody will be killed.

excuse my bad english

CraigyMc

Original Poster:

14,817 posts

220 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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isderaimperator said:
excuse my bad english
What bad English?

All these words were lovely.

GREENI

498 posts

164 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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Hi, I saw you at the 'ring in November, I took the liberty of taking some shots, so I've seen it in the flesh around the ring and loved it.











I do have it on video too !

GREENI

498 posts

164 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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I'm sure I have more pics... I'll see what I can do.

soad

31,674 posts

160 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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What a brilliant car! cool

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

239 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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PowerfullyBuilt said:
Splendid indeed. Can anyone else see a lot of McLaren F1 in the close-ups of those headlights?

ETA: Rear-view PERISCOPE??? Loopy rofl
As I said last time round....



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