Why bikers die
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The blind spots are a problem, but what a lot of drivers dont realise is that you are allowed to move in your seat to afford a better view of the road, like you are allowed to wind down the windows to see better, to turn the stereo down/off so you can hear better, I dont knwo why a car needs to be a sensory deprivation chamber ?
J4CKO said:
The blind spots are a problem, but what a lot of drivers dont realise is that you are allowed to move in your seat to afford a better view of the road, like you are allowed to wind down the windows to see better, to turn the stereo down/off so you can hear better, I dont knwo why a car needs to be a sensory deprivation chamber ?
You've gots to be fucckingg kidding. Are you seriously saying that I should wind down the windows and turn off the stereo at every junction? Just because one person might decude to behave like an idiot?Thehandshake said:
You've gots to be fucckingg kidding. Are you seriously saying that I should wind down the windows and turn off the stereo at every junction? Just because one person might decude to behave like an idiot?
You don't have to behave like an idiot to be obscured by a window pillar. Thehandshake said:
J4CKO said:
The blind spots are a problem, but what a lot of drivers dont realise is that you are allowed to move in your seat to afford a better view of the road, like you are allowed to wind down the windows to see better, to turn the stereo down/off so you can hear better, I dont knwo why a car needs to be a sensory deprivation chamber ?
You've gots to be fucckingg kidding. Are you seriously saying that I should wind down the windows and turn off the stereo at every junction? Just because one person might decude to behave like an idiot?But it's bloody good advice - I use it regularly to avoid running over pedestrians in car parks etc.
dapearson said:
For me it's about the ability to maintain progress exceed the speed limit regardless of traffic conditions. My commute takes 1 hr 45 mins by car at a steady pace. In bad traffic this can increase to 2 hrs 30 mins easily. By bike it's a pretty consistent 1 hr 20-30 mins no matter what happens.
EFA. 
Wills2 said:
dapearson said:
For me it's about the ability to maintain progress exceed the speed limit regardless of traffic conditions. My commute takes 1 hr 45 mins by car at a steady pace. In bad traffic this can increase to 2 hrs 30 mins easily. By bike it's a pretty consistent 1 hr 20-30 mins no matter what happens.
EFA. When the traffic grinds to a halt or below about 30 mph on the A14 i filter to maintain progress. I tend to stick to 70-80 mph absolute max on the A1 while car drivers regularly zip past me at 3 figures.
dapearson said:
Don't put words into my mouth, smiley face or not.
When the traffic grinds to a halt or below about 30 mph on the A14 ifilter zoom past to maintain progress. I tend to stick exceed 70-80 mph to the absolute max on the A1 while car drivers regularly zip past me at 3 figures.
Here have some more sweety.... When the traffic grinds to a halt or below about 30 mph on the A14 i
People who ride bikes are better drivers as well.
http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-...
Scientific fact.
http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-...
Scientific fact.
samdale said:
As a side note, when does filtering become undertaking/dangerous driving? Genuine question as I seem to remember looking it up and the results are distinctly unclear.
I was on a recent rider awareness course following a crash I had, I f
ked up a simple bend, slow moving but broke my wrist and hurt my back. The folk who ran the course (test examiners, they work closely with the police) said that any normal moving traffic is illegal to filter in.Essex police will pull you over and issue tickets for anything over 30mph for moving traffic and anything over 20mph for stationary traffic.
Basically if you're in a jam that's that's crawling on a 4 lane motorway at 35mph you've gotta sit in it with them.
Essentially it seems there's no limit that has been legislated, but they've got local guidelines that they impose.
Usually when I'm sedately moving with the traffic, someone changes lane on me. This happens vastly more than when I am filtering at speed. When I've nearly been hit, twice on one trip - just by staying in my lane, with appropriate gap and same speed as surrounding traffic, it makes me up the pace. Going faster really does feel safer at times. Obviously the percentage difference becomes an issue but it seems like that if you go with the flow you do not stand out, and are therefore invisible. Be safe out there everyone!
GTIR said:
Spanna said:
It's funny you should say that. Just a few weeks ago I was behind a woman in a 207 who had both her wing mirrors folded in whilst driving along. I pulled up right next to her at the lights and could see she was just looking down at her phone. On Facebook. I pointed towards her mirror to say it was folded in, but she just quickly put her phone away and glared forwards like I didn't exist.
She was quite fit, in case anybody was wondering.
How did you know she was on Facebook if she was looking down at it?She was quite fit, in case anybody was wondering.
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