Bloodhound LSR Thread As Requested...
Discussion
dilbert2000 said:
E24man said:
In51ghts comments are always telling and to the point, and IMHO, have always been open to comment upon but in the recent few pages his contributions have been passed over by some as if he was just another armchair expert who thinks they know so much more than actually do.
That's because whilst In51ght constantly alludes to his greater inside knowledge, in recent weeks he's offered very few actual facts. On that basis, he is in effect no more insightful than an armchair expert, hence being treated like one.Hawk1018 said:
From what I have heard, rocket development was going to be the big expense. The team was also kicking around ideas of using electric power for the peroxide pump instead of a V8.combustion engine. The rocket was going to have to be even larger for the 1000 mph attempt...….even possibly needing a redesign in the rear of the vehicle to fit it. I think most of the money would have went to Nammo…..and the 2 years of further testing/running to get to 1000.
Ahh, I can start to see some bigger numbers now. Especially with what’s added by Insight about the MoD engines on loan.Thank you.
Also just seen the £250k figure bandied about for the car. Ouch. The Autocar article looks like Green is looking for a Hail Mary. He seems to be more a front man than Noble latterly?
dilbert2000 said:
As you well know, I wasn't involved in the project. I'm not claiming to have inside knowledge though. My point is that it's pretty pointless of In51ght to keep babbling on about how much he knows when he's not able or willing to disclose anything!
Babbling? Really?Sorry but I'm afraid you're going to have to try much harder than that to make yourself seem at all coherent or understandable.
I suspect the project has hardly moved forward in any significant engineering aspects at all since Insight felt he had to leave so his knowledge is probably as good as it gets; some theoretical engineering and planning might have gone on but I doubt it.
tigerkoi said:
The Autocar article looks like Green is looking for a Hail Mary. He seems to be more a front man than Noble latterly?
Possibly a combination of Noble feeling.... pretty down and not wanting to speak, and that Green is seen as separate from the project's management and therefore better to promote it?
WinstonWolf said:
dilbert2000 said:
E24man said:
In51ghts comments are always telling and to the point, and IMHO, have always been open to comment upon but in the recent few pages his contributions have been passed over by some as if he was just another armchair expert who thinks they know so much more than actually do.
That's because whilst In51ght constantly alludes to his greater inside knowledge, in recent weeks he's offered very few actual facts. On that basis, he is in effect no more insightful than an armchair expert, hence being treated like one.So sorry if I'm not answering every question you see fit ask, oh, and may I point you towards this, which was in reply to a scathing post I made to you?
dilbert2000 said:
Thanks for that, potty mouth. You kind of lose a bit of credibility with your choice of language. I'll scan past your posts in future...
You just couldn't stay away could you!!!!!!Edited by IN51GHT on Tuesday 11th December 13:25
IN51GHT said:
WinstonWolf said:
dilbert2000 said:
E24man said:
In51ghts comments are always telling and to the point, and IMHO, have always been open to comment upon but in the recent few pages his contributions have been passed over by some as if he was just another armchair expert who thinks they know so much more than actually do.
That's because whilst In51ght constantly alludes to his greater inside knowledge, in recent weeks he's offered very few actual facts. On that basis, he is in effect no more insightful than an armchair expert, hence being treated like one.So sorry if I'm not answering every question you see fit ask, oh, and may I point you towards this, which was in reply to a scathing post I made to you?
dilbert2000 said:
Thanks for that, potty mouth. You kind of lose a bit of credibility with your choice of language. I'll scan past your posts in future...
You just couldn't stay away could you!!!!!!Edited by IN51GHT on Tuesday 11th December 13:25
Big Al. said:
The clock is ticking! 
And that, gentlemen, would be a crying shame.When I say gentlemen, I do not include the small numbers of posters with over inflated opinions of the value of their criticisms which is, quite frankly, appalling.
From the outset, this has been a fascinating thread and the saga is not yet over. I for one would like to follow it further.
I would hazard a guess that the antagonistic posters only joined in when Bloodhound went into administration.
I don't know how to back up that assertion without trawling through the whole thread.
Am I wrong?
dilbert2000 said:
You can point out what you like, and I will continue to make whatever points I believe in. I might make a decision to ignore someone and not respond, but it's my free choice to return if I feel I wish to respond to something. You're not in charge, Mr In51ght, and I don't answer to you.
In51ght started this thread. He was also lead mechanical engineer on the team.....and designed many mechanical and structural components of the vehicle. Previously worked for the Williams F1 team. I thank him for his contributions.....it has given us all a detailed inside look into the construction of the car. He even shared a bit about the trials and failures of the rocket fuel pump I believe..... We got a first class inside look into this vehicle because of him.Going into details of why the project failed from a management viewpoint, is not what I would even remotely expect at this time. Noble can answer to that at a later date.
3.8 MOD said:
Big Al. said:
The clock is ticking!
And that, gentlemen, would be a crying shame.When I say gentlemen, I do not include the small numbers of posters with over inflated opinions of the value of their criticisms which is, quite frankly, appalling.
From the outset, this has been a fascinating thread and the saga is not yet over. I for one would like to follow it further.
I would hazard a guess that the antagonistic posters only joined in when Bloodhound went into administration.
I don't know how to back up that assertion without trawling through the whole thread.
Am I wrong?
IN51GHT said:
The problem partially lies in...
1. Would the MOD loan the EJ200's out again, to any potential buyer, I do not know the answer to that I'm afraid.
2. Any future owner would need most of the engineers back if they were to stand any chance of running that car SAFELY.
The answer to 1 possibly lies in not wanting to be seen to kill it/how much they can be persuaded that the education aspect is still worth while (which would then involve someone keeping all of that going) vs the cost of re-engineering using a different engine (not cheap/easy)1. Would the MOD loan the EJ200's out again, to any potential buyer, I do not know the answer to that I'm afraid.
2. Any future owner would need most of the engineers back if they were to stand any chance of running that car SAFELY.
The second by the sound of it would find enthusiasm but require lot of goodwill trades guarantees i suspect....would you go back under the right conditions?
mcdjl said:
IN51GHT said:
The problem partially lies in...
1. Would the MOD loan the EJ200's out again, to any potential buyer, I do not know the answer to that I'm afraid.
2. Any future owner would need most of the engineers back if they were to stand any chance of running that car SAFELY.
The answer to 1 possibly lies in not wanting to be seen to kill it/how much they can be persuaded that the education aspect is still worth while (which would then involve someone keeping all of that going) vs the cost of re-engineering using a different engine (not cheap/easy)1. Would the MOD loan the EJ200's out again, to any potential buyer, I do not know the answer to that I'm afraid.
2. Any future owner would need most of the engineers back if they were to stand any chance of running that car SAFELY.
The second by the sound of it would find enthusiasm but require lot of goodwill trades guarantees i suspect....would you go back under the right conditions?
I don't believe there is another engine that will fit & have the same thrust.
tigerkoi said:
Ahh, I can start to see some bigger numbers now. Especially with what’s added by Insight about the MoD engines on loan.
Thank you.
Also just seen the £250k figure bandied about for the car. Ouch. The Autocar article looks like Green is looking for a Hail Mary. He seems to be more a front man than Noble latterly?
I had not seen the sale price for the car, but I looked it up after you mentioned it.....313,000 US dollars for the car is insanely cheap! But,there is SO much more to do. As In51ght mentioned, another jet engine won't fit. The rocket(s) don't yet exist for it specifically. The car still lacks CF components like the fin strake, airbrake doors, rear wheel fairings, etc.Thank you.
Also just seen the £250k figure bandied about for the car. Ouch. The Autocar article looks like Green is looking for a Hail Mary. He seems to be more a front man than Noble latterly?
I hope someone buys it with intent to run it.. and the gov't will still loan out the engines.…..at least to break the current record
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