Winter tyres vol 2
Discussion
Just dug out the winter tyres. They are Pirelli’s Sotto zero 2 and I’m puzzled by the tread pattern. ( had them. 3 years, just noticed).
They look like directional tyres but are not marked with the direction , the inside 1/3 having a diagonal pattern the rest fairly standard blocks. but they are marked inside/ outside.
When you line up left and right, the tread pattern with the diagonal pattern runs differently in each side .
Given you are advised not to use different tyres in the same axle this seems wrong.
They seem to work fine and had no issues with them.
Anyone else had these or can offer an explanation?
They look like directional tyres but are not marked with the direction , the inside 1/3 having a diagonal pattern the rest fairly standard blocks. but they are marked inside/ outside.
When you line up left and right, the tread pattern with the diagonal pattern runs differently in each side .
Given you are advised not to use different tyres in the same axle this seems wrong.
They seem to work fine and had no issues with them.
Anyone else had these or can offer an explanation?
Falconer said:
Just dug out the winter tyres. They are Pirelli’s Sotto zero 2 and I’m puzzled by the tread pattern. ( had them. 3 years, just noticed).
They look like directional tyres but are not marked with the direction , the inside 1/3 having a diagonal pattern the rest fairly standard blocks. but they are marked inside/ outside.
When you line up left and right, the tread pattern with the diagonal pattern runs differently in each side .
Given you are advised not to use different tyres in the same axle this seems wrong.
They seem to work fine and had no issues with them.
Anyone else had these or can offer an explanation?
Loads and loads of forum posts asking about the pattern on this tyre (I googled). In this post someone has asked Pirelli and received a response.They look like directional tyres but are not marked with the direction , the inside 1/3 having a diagonal pattern the rest fairly standard blocks. but they are marked inside/ outside.
When you line up left and right, the tread pattern with the diagonal pattern runs differently in each side .
Given you are advised not to use different tyres in the same axle this seems wrong.
They seem to work fine and had no issues with them.
Anyone else had these or can offer an explanation?
https://www.bimmerfest.com/threads/are-pirelli-win...
mstrbkr said:
Falconer said:
Just dug out the winter tyres. They are Pirelli’s Sotto zero 2 and I’m puzzled by the tread pattern. ( had them. 3 years, just noticed).
They look like directional tyres but are not marked with the direction , the inside 1/3 having a diagonal pattern the rest fairly standard blocks. but they are marked inside/ outside.
When you line up left and right, the tread pattern with the diagonal pattern runs differently in each side .
Given you are advised not to use different tyres in the same axle this seems wrong.
They seem to work fine and had no issues with them.
Anyone else had these or can offer an explanation?
Loads and loads of forum posts asking about the pattern on this tyre (I googled). In this post someone has asked Pirelli and received a response.They look like directional tyres but are not marked with the direction , the inside 1/3 having a diagonal pattern the rest fairly standard blocks. but they are marked inside/ outside.
When you line up left and right, the tread pattern with the diagonal pattern runs differently in each side .
Given you are advised not to use different tyres in the same axle this seems wrong.
They seem to work fine and had no issues with them.
Anyone else had these or can offer an explanation?
https://www.bimmerfest.com/threads/are-pirelli-win...
Falconer said:
mstrbkr said:
Falconer said:
Just dug out the winter tyres. They are Pirelli’s Sotto zero 2 and I’m puzzled by the tread pattern. ( had them. 3 years, just noticed).
They look like directional tyres but are not marked with the direction , the inside 1/3 having a diagonal pattern the rest fairly standard blocks. but they are marked inside/ outside.
When you line up left and right, the tread pattern with the diagonal pattern runs differently in each side .
Given you are advised not to use different tyres in the same axle this seems wrong.
They seem to work fine and had no issues with them.
Anyone else had these or can offer an explanation?
Loads and loads of forum posts asking about the pattern on this tyre (I googled). In this post someone has asked Pirelli and received a response.They look like directional tyres but are not marked with the direction , the inside 1/3 having a diagonal pattern the rest fairly standard blocks. but they are marked inside/ outside.
When you line up left and right, the tread pattern with the diagonal pattern runs differently in each side .
Given you are advised not to use different tyres in the same axle this seems wrong.
They seem to work fine and had no issues with them.
Anyone else had these or can offer an explanation?
https://www.bimmerfest.com/threads/are-pirelli-win...
Edited by Pica-Pica on Friday 23 October 10:55
I put a set of Quatrac 5 on our Panda, I don't like them much, they make the car feel quite wobbly and jelly like, whereas the Snowtrac 3's we had on it drove fairly normally, squishy compound aside. I was happy with the tests/reviews/price and was going to put a set on the Century too, but not now I've had experience of them, I'll go for CC+ instead. I expect the Quatrac's will be OK in bad weather though.
21st Century Man said:
I put a set of Quatrac 5 on our Panda, I don't like them much, they make the car feel quite wobbly and jelly like, whereas the Snowtrac 3's we had on it drove fairly normally, squishy compound aside. I was happy with the tests/reviews/price and was going to put a set on the Century too, but not now I've had experience of them, I'll go for CC+ instead. I expect the Quatrac's will be OK in bad weather though.
We have Quatrac 5s on my wife’s Fabia, no real difference between them and Conti Premium 2 (summer tyre) with regards ride and handling, a bit quieter though. Never had the weather to see what they are like in ice or snow - as you can imagine, we have them ‘just in case’.I would prefer Continental Allseasoncontact over Michelin CC or CC+, but for our use, I wanted an asymmetric all-season tyre rather than a directional tyre.
Pica-Pica said:
21st Century Man said:
I put a set of Quatrac 5 on our Panda, I don't like them much, they make the car feel quite wobbly and jelly like, whereas the Snowtrac 3's we had on it drove fairly normally, squishy compound aside. I was happy with the tests/reviews/price and was going to put a set on the Century too, but not now I've had experience of them, I'll go for CC+ instead. I expect the Quatrac's will be OK in bad weather though.
We have Quatrac 5s on my wife’s Fabia, no real difference between them and Conti Premium 2 (summer tyre) with regards ride and handling, a bit quieter though. Never had the weather to see what they are like in ice or snow - as you can imagine, we have them ‘just in case’.I would prefer Continental Allseasoncontact over Michelin CC or CC+, but for our use, I wanted an asymmetric all-season tyre rather than a directional tyre.
Pica-Pica said:
Falconer said:
mstrbkr said:
Falconer said:
Just dug out the winter tyres. They are Pirelli’s Sotto zero 2 and I’m puzzled by the tread pattern. ( had them. 3 years, just noticed).
They look like directional tyres but are not marked with the direction , the inside 1/3 having a diagonal pattern the rest fairly standard blocks. but they are marked inside/ outside.
When you line up left and right, the tread pattern with the diagonal pattern runs differently in each side .
Given you are advised not to use different tyres in the same axle this seems wrong.
They seem to work fine and had no issues with them.
Anyone else had these or can offer an explanation?
Loads and loads of forum posts asking about the pattern on this tyre (I googled). In this post someone has asked Pirelli and received a response.They look like directional tyres but are not marked with the direction , the inside 1/3 having a diagonal pattern the rest fairly standard blocks. but they are marked inside/ outside.
When you line up left and right, the tread pattern with the diagonal pattern runs differently in each side .
Given you are advised not to use different tyres in the same axle this seems wrong.
They seem to work fine and had no issues with them.
Anyone else had these or can offer an explanation?
https://www.bimmerfest.com/threads/are-pirelli-win...
Edited by Pica-Pica on Friday 23 October 10:55
Falconer said:
Pica-Pica said:
Falconer said:
mstrbkr said:
Falconer said:
Just dug out the winter tyres. They are Pirelli’s Sotto zero 2 and I’m puzzled by the tread pattern. ( had them. 3 years, just noticed).
They look like directional tyres but are not marked with the direction , the inside 1/3 having a diagonal pattern the rest fairly standard blocks. but they are marked inside/ outside.
When you line up left and right, the tread pattern with the diagonal pattern runs differently in each side .
Given you are advised not to use different tyres in the same axle this seems wrong.
They seem to work fine and had no issues with them.
Anyone else had these or can offer an explanation?
Loads and loads of forum posts asking about the pattern on this tyre (I googled). In this post someone has asked Pirelli and received a response.They look like directional tyres but are not marked with the direction , the inside 1/3 having a diagonal pattern the rest fairly standard blocks. but they are marked inside/ outside.
When you line up left and right, the tread pattern with the diagonal pattern runs differently in each side .
Given you are advised not to use different tyres in the same axle this seems wrong.
They seem to work fine and had no issues with them.
Anyone else had these or can offer an explanation?
https://www.bimmerfest.com/threads/are-pirelli-win...
Edited by Pica-Pica on Friday 23 October 10:55
Edited by Pica-Pica on Friday 23 October 16:39
mstrbkr said:
Falconer said:
No they are nothing like that.
Just fit them with inside and outside on the correct sides. There’s no direction arrow on them. You have your answer!Sottozero II = asymmetric, and so, like all asymmetric tyres these must be fitted with ‘outer’ on the outside of the wheel. You can then swap a wheel and tyre from one side to the other.
Edited by Pica-Pica on Friday 23 October 22:28
SW London here abs yet to fit winter tyres. We've have a couple of sub 5°C evenings/mornings but now we're back up to highs of 16°C and lows not far behind!
I think that I'll take the opportunity this weekend to dress the sidewalls with the tyre cleaner and lacquer system that I purchased then protect the alloys with bilt hamber double speed wax ready to fit them in a couple of weeks, perhaps.
I'm not really driving very far nor fast any time soon and the urban roads around me are all well trodden and 20mph.
I think that I'll take the opportunity this weekend to dress the sidewalls with the tyre cleaner and lacquer system that I purchased then protect the alloys with bilt hamber double speed wax ready to fit them in a couple of weeks, perhaps.
I'm not really driving very far nor fast any time soon and the urban roads around me are all well trodden and 20mph.
Random question of the week....
Recently there seem to be a series of diesel spills near me (hard to notice in the dark) and I've had a couple of nasty fishtails while trying to avoid vehicles which had already collided, presumably due to the spill.
Would winter/all season tyres be expected to cope better, worse or about the same with a diesel spill compared to summer tyres?
Recently there seem to be a series of diesel spills near me (hard to notice in the dark) and I've had a couple of nasty fishtails while trying to avoid vehicles which had already collided, presumably due to the spill.
Would winter/all season tyres be expected to cope better, worse or about the same with a diesel spill compared to summer tyres?
So not specifically winter tyres but fitted a set of Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons Gen2’s to the Mrs’s Citroen C1 that I’m currently commuting in. My cars I’ve always run things like Michelin PS3/4’s or equivalents and been impressed with grip as you’d expect but I’ve been blown away by how they’ve transformed the car and cornering in the wet there’s so much grip I think I surprise a few cars on the commute. Even she’s noticed a positive difference and she’s oblivious to anything
With that in mind I’ll definitely invest in a set of all seasons for winter for my next car.
With that in mind I’ll definitely invest in a set of all seasons for winter for my next car.
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