One for the Main dealers on here

One for the Main dealers on here

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Dave200

3,834 posts

220 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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japgt said:
...or have things moved on sufficiently for a tattooed person to attain a job in the above role...
Are you somehow suggesting that, all of a sudden, it has become more socially-acceptable to make your body look like that of a 80-year old sailor? Because, other than in the youth/hipster circles, opinions of tattoos are pretty much unchanged...

Mastiff

2,515 posts

241 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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Blib said:
To find out the legalities of this particular situation, I've just taken my life in my hands and interrupted Mrs Blib's viewing of Midsomer Murders.

She is head of the Employment Law department at one of The City's biggest financial institutions. She knows her stuff. This is her reply.

It would be within a potential employer's rights not to employ someone due to them having visible tattoos. There is no "looks" discrimination. To get anywhere in a discrimination case, he would have to show that refusal was on a protected ground eg race, sexual orientation, age etc. He may have grounds if the tattoos were part of his religious belief. Now get me a cup of tea".

That last sentence was directed at me, rather than the OP.
Probably the most informative post thus far on this thread.

I work at a Main Dealer. There are 13 Sales People here across two Brands, and more customer facing people than I care to count (Business Managers, Receptionists, Service Advisors, Drivers etc etc)

Many of us have tattoos - NOT ONE of us has tattoos that cannot be covered.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

232 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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Im surprised at this. I thought tattoos were so commonplace now that society generally had a more indifferent view of them.

Meanwhile, given the reputation car dealers have, I find it pretty ironic that they turn their noses up at something like a tattoo.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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Dave200 said:
japgt said:
...or have things moved on sufficiently for a tattooed person to attain a job in the above role...
Are you somehow suggesting that, all of a sudden, it has become more socially-acceptable to make your body look like that of a 80-year old sailor? Because, other than in the youth/hipster circles, opinions of tattoos are pretty much unchanged...
Sorry but you are wrong.

Opinions of tattoos has changed in recent years. It's a lot more common to see middle class, middle aged people with tattoos these days.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

209 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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Devil2575 said:
Sorry but you are wrong.

Opinions of tattoos has changed in recent years. It's a lot more common to see middle class, middle aged people with tattoos these days.

And will become increasingly more prevelent seeing as getting a tatoo while at uni seems to be a cool thing currently.

Mastiff

2,515 posts

241 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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Agreed - but very few on hands (fingers in particular), face or neck.

aw51 121565

4,771 posts

233 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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bqf said:
... 'Love/Hate' on your knuckles ...
VOLE and THAE would be good.

Fingers crossed for you, OP thumbup .

Mastiff

2,515 posts

241 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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Member JH500 relates a story that he once sold a TVR to a older chap who had lost his little finger - so his tattoos said LOVE and HAT

Galileo

3,145 posts

218 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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Ok, Main Dealer, and employer here.

I've only scanned through some of the answers to the original question and as usual for PH half of them are stupid and ill informed.

People buy from people, and first impressions count. If you are polite and well presented, friendly, truthful and well informed you have a good chance of them buying from you.

The same goes for interviews. Employers are buying your services. They will look at your appearance and decide if they want you to sell to their customers. If you do not comply to the norm or close to it you stand a chance of not getting the job.

Tattos are historically used by people who were more likely to be untrustworthy, unfriendly types. These ideas (rightly or wrongly) still hold today and will influence the decision making of the employer and customer.

So if the tattos are visible it will lessen your chances of getting the job proportional to how visible they are and what they look like.

I hope this helps.

Dave200

3,834 posts

220 months

Thursday 9th January 2014
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Devil2575 said:
Dave200 said:
japgt said:
...or have things moved on sufficiently for a tattooed person to attain a job in the above role...
Are you somehow suggesting that, all of a sudden, it has become more socially-acceptable to make your body look like that of a 80-year old sailor? Because, other than in the youth/hipster circles, opinions of tattoos are pretty much unchanged...
Sorry but you are wrong.

Opinions of tattoos has changed in recent years. It's a lot more common to see middle class, middle aged people with tattoos these days.
Opinions of tattoos in general are softening, I agree.
Opinions of people who effectively graffiti their body to the extent that it can't be concealed with modest clothing, are not changing.

Just because the 20yo salesperson in American Apparel has a neck tattoo doesn't mean that I would trust him to sell me anything worth more than a couple of hundred quid...