RE: SVM Qashqai R hits the strip!
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The DVLA think it's a Qashqai with a GTR engine replacement, it's a GTR rolling chassis (of unknown provenance) with a Qashqai body welded on.
SVM went apoplectic when it was mentioned they may wish to register it correctly with the DVLA. After a month or so the (ahem) engine change was registered with them.
SVM went apoplectic when it was mentioned they may wish to register it correctly with the DVLA. After a month or so the (ahem) engine change was registered with them.
Rich_W said:
I won't ever trust a damn thing from that lot until I see it with my own eyes! I wouldn't even put it past them to record 1/8mile and claim 1/4.
That's how low my (and others) opinion of them is. Remember this car is actually still a 2.0 on the logbook. And they won't allow it to be inspected by a 3rd party since "IVA rules don't apply"
Anyone ever work out which GTR donated it's engine & transmission btw? IIRC all the pics had the plates removed. Why?
What exactly is being claimed here?! I'm a little confused, are you suggesting it doesn't contain GTR engine/transmission?That's how low my (and others) opinion of them is. Remember this car is actually still a 2.0 on the logbook. And they won't allow it to be inspected by a 3rd party since "IVA rules don't apply"
Anyone ever work out which GTR donated it's engine & transmission btw? IIRC all the pics had the plates removed. Why?
stuart-b said:
Rich_W said:
I won't ever trust a damn thing from that lot until I see it with my own eyes! I wouldn't even put it past them to record 1/8mile and claim 1/4.
That's how low my (and others) opinion of them is. Remember this car is actually still a 2.0 on the logbook. And they won't allow it to be inspected by a 3rd party since "IVA rules don't apply"
Anyone ever work out which GTR donated it's engine & transmission btw? IIRC all the pics had the plates removed. Why?
By the way, did you check the DVLA website recently? It quite clearly states 3799cc - Have a look for yourself. That's how low my (and others) opinion of them is. Remember this car is actually still a 2.0 on the logbook. And they won't allow it to be inspected by a 3rd party since "IVA rules don't apply"
Anyone ever work out which GTR donated it's engine & transmission btw? IIRC all the pics had the plates removed. Why?
https://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/app...
And that's just from the people on GTR.co.uk giving him a hard time for being evasive.
Bottom line. Many don't like SVM. I'm one of those. They've burnt too many people over the years (predominately from the Fast Ford era) for me to ever trust them. Love how he keeps on about his 30 years in the job. What does that prove exactly?
ukaskew said:
What exactly is being claimed here?! I'm a little confused, are you suggesting it doesn't contain GTR engine/transmission?
I'm saying if they said the sky was blue I'd still check! 
This car may or may not do the times they claim. But given their history of exaggerating. Who really knows until it's all confirmed independently. (Apparent sub 10Pod run excluded)I'm with DonnieMac on this car and the way they have carried themselves. Hardly covered themselves in glory.
DonnyMac said:
The DVLA think it's a Qashqai with a GTR engine replacement, it's a GTR rolling chassis (of unknown provenance) with a Qashqai body welded on.
SVM went apoplectic when it was mentioned they may wish to register it correctly with the DVLA. After a month or so the (ahem) engine change was registered with them.
Wow. It should be on a Q-plate then. It doesn't qualify for keeping the Qashqai registration looking at that picture.... It's not a simple re-engine job.SVM went apoplectic when it was mentioned they may wish to register it correctly with the DVLA. After a month or so the (ahem) engine change was registered with them.
SimonD said:
DonnyMac said:
The DVLA think it's a Qashqai with a GTR engine replacement, it's a GTR rolling chassis (of unknown provenance) with a Qashqai body welded on.
SVM went apoplectic when it was mentioned they may wish to register it correctly with the DVLA. After a month or so the (ahem) engine change was registered with them.
Wow. It should be on a Q-plate then. It doesn't qualify for keeping the Qashqai registration looking at that picture.... It's not a simple re-engine job.SVM went apoplectic when it was mentioned they may wish to register it correctly with the DVLA. After a month or so the (ahem) engine change was registered with them.
It was mentioned this might just not be cricket for the new owner, SVM went apoplectic calling everyone 'haters' or similar - I think it's a street term
Great creation, legal minefield when driven on the road.
Here's the link again to anyone that missed it in January when the car was for sale (£275k) - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=137...
This is where the conversation started - http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/175782-svm-release-proj... - a few pages in SVM say it's okay as they've been MOT testing for 30 years 
A few pages in it starts to get heated.
This is the heavily pruned version, there was another thread just about the legality of it but SVM had it pulled.
It was always the SVM plan to register the older (2012 unknown provenance GTR) car as a new Qashqai after the body chop - then after it was pointed out it wasn't legal the press releases said it was a Qashqai conversion.
Anyone got £275,000 sitting under the sofa?
A few pages in it starts to get heated.
This is the heavily pruned version, there was another thread just about the legality of it but SVM had it pulled.
It was always the SVM plan to register the older (2012 unknown provenance GTR) car as a new Qashqai after the body chop - then after it was pointed out it wasn't legal the press releases said it was a Qashqai conversion.
Anyone got £275,000 sitting under the sofa?
Rich_W said:
Yet it still "qualifies" for the Qashqai's VED rate. Not the £500 a year (or 275 for 6 months) that the normal GTR will cost you. Amazing that the DVLA agreed to this lack of income being OK. (you think really?) and that VOSA had never seen anything like a re-shell before (again, really?)
WTF is this, mumsnet? Who gives a flying f
k what it's taxed as? It ain't like it's going to spend its time pounding public roads. "Wonder what the insurance will cost?"
Well I'd say that as it's using a chassis from another model they could have justifiably registered it as a kit-car. ( Think beetle chassis for buggies etc )
That way they'd be able to get kit-car insurance, and i'm assuming they wont be doing a massive number of miles each year, so a limited mileage policy would bring it down even further.
It'd probably be a lot cheaper than we'd think.
Well I'd say that as it's using a chassis from another model they could have justifiably registered it as a kit-car. ( Think beetle chassis for buggies etc )
That way they'd be able to get kit-car insurance, and i'm assuming they wont be doing a massive number of miles each year, so a limited mileage policy would bring it down even further.
It'd probably be a lot cheaper than we'd think.
Well after a skim read of that it seems like VOSA came down and were happy to keep the Qashqai registration. Which basically throws all the rules out the window. Most peculiar.
The only part of the Qashqai that remains is the shell, not engine, suspension, brake, anything. A very strange decision.
The only part of the Qashqai that remains is the shell, not engine, suspension, brake, anything. A very strange decision.
Almost unbelievable don't you think?
"They've never seen anything like it before" body chop?
"They made the decision as ANPR would be confused" I need to catch my breath.
Obviously I have no idea what SVM told the DVLA VOSA etc but they agreed to switch the VIN from the body of one car and put it on another near complete car? Then changed the engine capacity but not the VED?
The car didn't need an inspection, just a paperwork file on what was carried out to the Qaahqai - about 85% of it was binned.
SVM said they threw the paperwork for the GTR in the bin!
It all stinks.
One day VOSA will get a look see at this and it won't be pretty, but I doubt we'll get to hear about it.
Still, seeming superb creation just a shocker that it's not legal as far as the 12 point published PDF I posted earlier.
"They've never seen anything like it before" body chop?
"They made the decision as ANPR would be confused" I need to catch my breath.
Obviously I have no idea what SVM told the DVLA VOSA etc but they agreed to switch the VIN from the body of one car and put it on another near complete car? Then changed the engine capacity but not the VED?
The car didn't need an inspection, just a paperwork file on what was carried out to the Qaahqai - about 85% of it was binned.
SVM said they threw the paperwork for the GTR in the bin!
It all stinks.
One day VOSA will get a look see at this and it won't be pretty, but I doubt we'll get to hear about it.
Still, seeming superb creation just a shocker that it's not legal as far as the 12 point published PDF I posted earlier.
Passeyfier] [... said:
impressive as it may be, I'd rather take an actual GTR to such heights rather than a Qashqai.
In fairness Passey, that's exactly what SVM thought too so that's what they did, it's just they got the DVLA to switch the V5 and call it a Qashqai once they'd finished Both laughs and the seriousness of the situation should it be involved in an accident on the public highway aside, SVM are well known for creating these beasts in pure GTR form.
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renaultgeek said:
Shouldn't people be happy about VOSA allowing it to stay as a qashqai? Does it not set legal precedence if you want to do something similar?
If they actually did...I haven't read the stuff on the gtr forum but I don't think there's any evidence that VOSA have viewed the cashcard and concluded that it should be a cashcard.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff