Bmw 6 series ... Why so cheap?

Bmw 6 series ... Why so cheap?

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Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

188 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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Jimboka said:
I guess it's due to the 60k car running and servicing costs...
Not expensive to run at all.

It's basically a E60 5 series underneath it all and that has been around for 11 years so the majority of mechanics (even back street ones) will be familiar with them.

The new 5 and 6 series though are much more complicated!


5678

6,146 posts

226 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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I had a 2006 650i for a few years and it was brilliant. Cost me nothing other than the extended warranty costs and an oil/filter change and a set of non-runflats at £700.

It's bad on fuel as to be expected. I averaged 19mpg over 30000 miles. Some history in my profile.

I'd still have it if we didnt need more space for kids seats.

Legend83

9,947 posts

221 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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I absolutely am set on one of these as a reasonably cost-effective way of V8 ownership but got to pay for an extension next year. frown

Bloody kids!

jamieduff1981

8,022 posts

139 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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I almost got round to buying an M6 cab for my wife. We wanted something fast, decent handling and quality and 4 useable seats for our children. The V10 engine appealed a lot although the fuel consumption compared to similar performing competitors is fairly poor - but we could have tolerated that.

The thing is - that for all the appeal of the V10 engine, it's just not an attractive car inside or out. On paper it's brilliant. Only the BMW 6 and the Maseratis are high-end coupes or cabs you can fit children in the back of with enough space to call comfortable or 'long distance capable'. The Maserati GranCabrio is a lot of money and V8s aren't that special IMO, yet for all its V10 soundtrack the M6 just didn't quite prise my money out of my hand. I'm sure it would be a good enough car, but we could never 'love' it if that's the word.

It's a shame. I'd really like to own a V10 but there's not a car that I'm aware of wrapped around a V10 that I'd want to own.

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

188 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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I have the V10 M6 and the warranty is a must.

But my God, can they sing!!!

Still a head turner after 8 years.


Baryonyx

17,990 posts

158 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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A good list of ingredients spoiled by butt ugly styling. But a V10 would definitely swing things!

Shaoxter

4,048 posts

123 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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Absolute bargain, only expensive things are the tyres and they like to drink engine oil.

Legend83 said:
Get one under 60k miles and take out the Mondial warranty for £80 a month.

Worry-free V8 motoring.

That's my plan eventually anyway!
Wouldn't even bother with the warranty unless it's an M6, when you consider the warranty excess I'm pretty sure you'd be better off putting £80 in a bork fund.


jamieduff1981 said:
I almost got round to buying an M6 cab for my wife. We wanted something fast, decent handling and quality and 4 useable seats for our children. The V10 engine appealed a lot although the fuel consumption compared to similar performing competitors is fairly poor - but we could have tolerated that.

The thing is - that for all the appeal of the V10 engine, it's just not an attractive car inside or out. On paper it's brilliant. Only the BMW 6 and the Maseratis are high-end coupes or cabs you can fit children in the back of with enough space to call comfortable or 'long distance capable'. The Maserati GranCabrio is a lot of money and V8s aren't that special IMO, yet for all its V10 soundtrack the M6 just didn't quite prise my money out of my hand. I'm sure it would be a good enough car, but we could never 'love' it if that's the word.

It's a shame. I'd really like to own a V10 but there's not a car that I'm aware of wrapped around a V10 that I'd want to own.
E60 M5? wink

Legend83

9,947 posts

221 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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Shaoxter said:
Absolute bargain, only expensive things are the tyres and they like to drink engine oil.

Legend83 said:
Get one under 60k miles and take out the Mondial warranty for £80 a month.

Worry-free V8 motoring.

That's my plan eventually anyway!
Wouldn't even bother with the warranty unless it's an M6, when you consider the warranty excess I'm pretty sure you'd be better off putting £80 in a bork fund.
You can choose zero excess though. Increases the price a bit admittedly.

Consumables are manageable because the timing of cost is easier to predict but if the ABS unit or the i-Drive on one of these things goes you are looking at unexpected four-figure expense I would imagine.

Yes, a bork-fund is an alternative but if you are unlucky and something bad happens 2 months into ownership £160 is unlikely to cover the cost.

I am just saying no-one should be under the illusion that a car like this could throw up £60k car bills.

The warranty to me at the price available is worth it just for peace of mind.

jamieduff1981

8,022 posts

139 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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Shaoxter said:
Absolute bargain, only expensive things are the tyres and they like to drink engine oil.

Legend83 said:
Get one under 60k miles and take out the Mondial warranty for £80 a month.

Worry-free V8 motoring.

That's my plan eventually anyway!
Wouldn't even bother with the warranty unless it's an M6, when you consider the warranty excess I'm pretty sure you'd be better off putting £80 in a bork fund.


jamieduff1981 said:
I almost got round to buying an M6 cab for my wife. We wanted something fast, decent handling and quality and 4 useable seats for our children. The V10 engine appealed a lot although the fuel consumption compared to similar performing competitors is fairly poor - but we could have tolerated that.

The thing is - that for all the appeal of the V10 engine, it's just not an attractive car inside or out. On paper it's brilliant. Only the BMW 6 and the Maseratis are high-end coupes or cabs you can fit children in the back of with enough space to call comfortable or 'long distance capable'. The Maserati GranCabrio is a lot of money and V8s aren't that special IMO, yet for all its V10 soundtrack the M6 just didn't quite prise my money out of my hand. I'm sure it would be a good enough car, but we could never 'love' it if that's the word.

It's a shame. I'd really like to own a V10 but there's not a car that I'm aware of wrapped around a V10 that I'd want to own.
E60 M5? wink
Went for XFR-S instead. The M5 would have been the obvious choice but a bit too obvious. I prefer unusual/underdog cars which people invariably can't understand why I chose them laugh

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

245 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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Schermerhorn said:
Still a headstomach turner after 8 years.

That thing grafted on the back didn't stay long in BMW's styling repertoire.
But as previously mentioned, used 6-series is a bargain if it's the type of car you're looking for.

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

188 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Schermerhorn said:
Still a headstomach turner after 8 years.

That thing grafted on the back didn't stay long in BMW's styling repertoire.
But as previously mentioned, used 6-series is a bargain if it's the type of car you're looking for.
Each to their own but I've never met anyone who said it turned their stomach.

TheRoadWarrior

1,241 posts

177 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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There were big discounts from new on certain models IIRC, that will impact the used price as much as running costs

J4CKO

41,287 posts

199 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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I know tyres will be expensive but other stuff doesnt look too bad, front disks are £83 a set delivered.

The engines seem pretty robust, they dont rust so do they suffer many random electronic, gearbox or other difficult to sort problems ?

tali1

5,265 posts

200 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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Schermerhorn said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
Schermerhorn said:
Still a headstomach turner after 8 years.

That thing grafted on the back didn't stay long in BMW's styling repertoire.
But as previously mentioned, used 6-series is a bargain if it's the type of car you're looking for.
Each to their own but I've never met anyone who said it turned their stomach.
Sadly there will be a fair few -typical hyper emotive PHers nothing more.
Ugly BWM !!!!is nothing new but folks in real world keep buying them.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

245 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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Schermerhorn said:
Each to their own but I've never met anyone who said it turned their stomach.
That's fair enough. It was just an easy tweak of the sentence.

I don't think the Bangled Boot had many fans though. And design has moved on. I think the current 4-series coupe is one of the best looking cars in a long time.

Greg_D

6,542 posts

245 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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That isn't especially cheap tbh, when you think about the typical depreciation curve.

I always work on cars halving in value every 3 years and it generally rings true so this is pretty much bang on for that stat!

Baryonyx

17,990 posts

158 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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Ozzie Osmond said:
I don't think the Bangled Boot had many fans though. And design has moved on.
I love Bangle's designs. Fiat Coupe, of course, but even his work with BMW was really good. The E60 and E65 are beautiful things. BMW trying to take a slice of the Mercedes Benz super GT-coupe market though, with that honking turd of a 6 series? No thanks, it's just looks dreadful.

thatdude

2,654 posts

126 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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Jim the Sunderer said:
P.s. they are a bit ugly too.
im glad I'm not the only one who thinks that!

Shaoxter

4,048 posts

123 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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Legend83 said:
Shaoxter said:
Absolute bargain, only expensive things are the tyres and they like to drink engine oil.

Legend83 said:
Get one under 60k miles and take out the Mondial warranty for £80 a month.

Worry-free V8 motoring.

That's my plan eventually anyway!
Wouldn't even bother with the warranty unless it's an M6, when you consider the warranty excess I'm pretty sure you'd be better off putting £80 in a bork fund.
You can choose zero excess though. Increases the price a bit admittedly.

Consumables are manageable because the timing of cost is easier to predict but if the ABS unit or the i-Drive on one of these things goes you are looking at unexpected four-figure expense I would imagine.

Yes, a bork-fund is an alternative but if you are unlucky and something bad happens 2 months into ownership £160 is unlikely to cover the cost.

I am just saying no-one should be under the illusion that a car like this could throw up £60k car bills.

The warranty to me at the price available is worth it just for peace of mind.
The warranty will be peace of mind until you're tired of giving away £80 a month or a having a claim which barely covers the excess. ABS pump can be repaired for £300-400 (the 4 figure quotes are for a replacement), and I haven't really heard any iDrive scare stories.

Of course peace of mind can be worthwhile especially for a few months after a private sale, but you would have to have a real dog of a car to get through £1000 worth of warranty work (after the excess) a year. Zero excess is quite a bit more I think, something like £120 a month.

The E6x M cars are totally different so don't let the stories of the SMG failures and all the issues with the electonic wizardry in the M cars put you off.

unpc

2,831 posts

212 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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It's funny how people buy coupés in preference to the equivalent saloon for style reasons, yet in this case it looks considerably worse. My theoretical 15k would be heading for an XK/XKR.