RE: Lotus Elise S Club Racer: Review
Discussion
Krikkit said:
kambites said:
The thing air con is useful for in the Elise is dehumidifying in cold damp weather; especially if you don't have a garage.
I presume it still has a heater if you spec it without air con?Oddball RS said:
blueg33 said:
Oddball RS said:
You ever met a Salesman who has said its quiet....?
Lotus Press Release 3 July said:
Today, Group Lotus plc is pleased to announce a 31% rise in global sports car sales for the first financial quarter of 2014.
Edited by Frimley111R on Monday 7th July 16:22
kambites said:
Captain Muppet said:
Well, for £35,600 you can buy a lighter version of the same car.
True. Buying "the lightweight version" then filling it with heavy stuff does seem a bit perverse. Shame it's still as heavy as that after it's been stripped out, even before someone might spec the weight back in.
That's the same weight as an early S2 Exige or a VX220 turbo isn't it? They were quite a chunk up in weight from the originals, even with a few airbags and whatnot it's hard to see how the S3 has gained so much more to start with.
That's the same weight as an early S2 Exige or a VX220 turbo isn't it? They were quite a chunk up in weight from the originals, even with a few airbags and whatnot it's hard to see how the S3 has gained so much more to start with.
k-ink said:
£39k! 
I didn't want to start a 'price war' thread on here but I also think it's a bit too much for a bit too little. I mean shouldn't Lotus be making approximately 1 billion on every car at that price? 
Especially as it's essentially the same car since 2001 nearly fifteen years ago! Saying that I know they are a very low volume manufacturer so their profit margins have to be a lot larger than others. The value for money isn't good though, even for a niche track car. I think Porsche should make an Elise/Exige rival if there's a market for it. Just do a stripped out Porsche Boxster/Cayman chassis with a cheaper, lighter interior. Cheaper and lighter bucket seats with the same powertrain and brakes as the Golf Gti.
Would be a weapon on a track day I think and could cost less than £35K. Track day fans would love it and they could bring back the 914 name for it.
Just an idea.
I know you can't compare a lightweight with its heavier rivals and to be fair 4.6 to 60 from 220 bhp is pretty impressive in my book, however at 39K? Really?
Lets just hope a certain German brand doesn't decide to do a stripped out version of its soon to be unveiled 4 pot.
I won't play the "39k will get yadda yadda yadda" game.
Just a bit surprised where they pitched it. wasn't the Elise Mk I 690 Kg? (Google'd 725 Kg) Or am I making that up?
Less really is more....
Lets just hope a certain German brand doesn't decide to do a stripped out version of its soon to be unveiled 4 pot.
I won't play the "39k will get yadda yadda yadda" game.
Just a bit surprised where they pitched it. wasn't the Elise Mk I 690 Kg? (Google'd 725 Kg) Or am I making that up?
Less really is more....
Bought my first Lotus for just under 25k over 10 years ago. I'd have liked this to come in under 35k fully specced but it isn't that overpriced.
It seems the main criticism is the delivery style of the engine when compared to the previous one and the noise not being special enough. I'm sure a decent exhaust will sort that out.
Be interesting to see how fast it gets to 100mph, 4.6sec to 60 isn't bad at all for a car that is more about feel and going around corners. Good luck to 'em.
It seems the main criticism is the delivery style of the engine when compared to the previous one and the noise not being special enough. I'm sure a decent exhaust will sort that out.
Be interesting to see how fast it gets to 100mph, 4.6sec to 60 isn't bad at all for a car that is more about feel and going around corners. Good luck to 'em.
threespires said:
Yes, just £6,000 more than a Golf or £4,000 more than an Audi A3 diesel [before extras are added. £12,000 less than an Audi TT with similar power.
Some people need to check the price of new cars today.
It's not about checking prices it's about an opinion that you don't share.Some people need to check the price of new cars today.
Edited by threespires on Monday 7th July 18:11
They've never been cheap - adjusted for inflation, they've been more expensive in the past than they are now. Given their depreciation, I would think that if you bought a new one and kept it for five years the total cost of depreciation would be considerably less than if you bought a sporty version of a mass market car.
otolith said:
They've never been cheap - adjusted for inflation, they've been more expensive in the past than they are now. Given their depreciation, I would think that if you bought a new one and kept it for five years the total cost of depreciation would be considerably less than if you bought a sporty version of a mass market car.
This entirely. A Boxster would shed value far more quickly than an Elise and bear in mind that this is the S version. The basic 1.6 is £27k or thereabouts which is good value considering the car was £20k ish in 1996.Don't see what the complaints are regarding cost. You don't get much metal/plastic for your money but that is the way with any car of this type...Doesn't take away from the brilliance of such cars IMO.
Edited by SidewaysSi on Monday 7th July 18:41
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