RE: Nissan Skyline GT-R (R32) NISMO: Spotted

RE: Nissan Skyline GT-R (R32) NISMO: Spotted

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Guvernator

13,150 posts

165 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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Have to agree with some other posters. If you want an R-32 to actually drive, there are cheaper and better examples than this. The standard car is nice but pretty pedestrian, especially when compared to modern cars but if you chose well, you can pick up a vastly improved version with thousands spent on mods for quite a bit cheaper than this.

If you want one as a collectors item or in the hope that it will appreciate at some point, I'd suggest tracking down an unmolested Nismo (this one clearly isn't) or an N1 race spec version which is rarer still with only 200 odd made. Alternatively a V spec II edition which where the last of the line for the R32 are also very desirable and would probably be my pick of the bunch.

At any rate, with a few choice mods these cars are absolutely fantastic to drive and the ONLY reason they haven't appreciated into the stratosphere like other homologation specials is because they are Japanese so not appealing to most European car collectors tastes.

Neith

621 posts

140 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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I ideally want a R32 once I'm ready for a change from my S15 and the Nismo-spec version would be my perfect car (either that or a R33 400R...). Shame this one has been changed a bit from the standard Nismo spec as suggested.

R32 is definitely on the cards in a few years time though cloud9

avhbi

104 posts

188 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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They're great things when they work, which in my experience is not alot of the time. French levels of external pipework and the mad delving of the parts bin + race car mentality didn't ever make a reliable car. Some things are just crazy. e.g. the decision to use cast pistons and short crank drive from earlier NA engines. Ceramic turbos on standard boost are a bit shady after a while and definitely not up to the American 100K miles test. Also a pickup truck gearbox with a motorcycle clutchpack/transferbox bolted to it was clever just not very good. Later 6 speed boxes are the same as the M3 evo but with twice the loading. Great when the internals are not serviceable.
SAAB were a master class of understatement when it comes to these kind of engineering shenanigans and it's probably a lesson in business but not in loyalty.

PZR

627 posts

185 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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avhbi said:
Ceramic turbos on standard boost are a bit shady after a while and definitely not up to the American 100K miles test.
Don't think Nissan had any "American 100K miles test" in mind when they designed and engineered the RB26DETT. Why would they?

digger the goat

2,817 posts

145 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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avhbi said:
They're great things when they work, which in my experience is not alot of the time.
I'm sorry but you must have bought some shockers !!


And no I am not spoiling for an argument.smile

Andy616

444 posts

135 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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avhbi said:
They're great things when they work, which in my experience is not alot of the time.
Just looked at your profile, you bought an R32 GTR for £4,500 and expected it to be reliable? laugh




Guvernator

13,150 posts

165 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Not had an R32 but I've had a couple of the newer ones and they were rock solid. They can be dodgy if ill treated, not maintained properly or have dodgy ill conceived mods (lots do) but apart from that I didn't think they were fragile at all. You do have to shop carefully and buy right in the first place though.

Hellbound

2,500 posts

176 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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This very same car is up on Autotrader for £9k. Must be a mistake.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...


Anyway, this looks like a bargain;

http://www.stylishmotors.com/used-cars/nissan-skyl...

GravelBen

15,684 posts

230 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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avhbi said:
They're great things when they work, which in my experience is not alot of the time.
Can't speak for the GTR, but a few mates have had lesser models (GTS, GTS-TM etc) which have mostly been pretty good for reliability. Always seemed to be well engineered cars in general.

Stu R

21,410 posts

215 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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They're not bad, brilliant when new, often abused now they're cheap, and still insanely good fun if they've had some TLC. The RB26 isn't quite 2JZ bombproof, but not far off it, still seen plenty of lunched ones including two of my own, but it's a great excuse to rebuild though.

I'm half tempted to get another to build and bring over here under the 25 year exemption rule, but I'm not sure I can be bothered. Given how well Supras have held up over here, I struggle to see them going anywhere but north price wise. That being said, I wouldn't pay what this one is asking.

Vanquisher

3 posts

117 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Hello Chaps,

Just thought I would add my 2 cents worth on this R32. It is all there, I might add for one of the 560 (not 500) that NISSAN produced.

I would advise prospective purchasers to take a look at the strut tower tops. Sadly, they didn't come out of the factory like that.

To be worth good money, they need to be original. So the Climate control and stero need to be put back as well as original seats; amongst others things.
A model & vin check is also required. Model code for genuine R32 Nismo is: KBNR32RXFSL RA

It is still a rare one though.

avhbi

104 posts

188 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Andy616 said:
Just looked at your profile, you bought an R32 GTR for £4,500 and expected it to be reliable? laugh
My £4.5k one was in comparison to friends ones absolutely brilliant and didn't let me down that much. BTW I bought direct 8 years ago! £4500 was an ok price then. It had n1 turbos, carbonetic twin plate clutch, strengthened gearbox (not giken went on to live in gtr no2), and alot of other decent bits. Went better than alot and was reasonably responsive. However I got scared and sold up after watching several friends trials and tribulations with them.

R33 (no1 big name builder) £12k build blew within 1000 miles. Another R33 was solidish apart from gearboxes and clutches but he lost faith after £20k as it drove like a pig (no2 big name builder) Another r34 with god knows what but the parts bill was £14k and it drank oil (no2 big name builder). He also cut his losses and it went to Scandinavia.

Maybe not an absolutely scientific spread but, it is MY experience, it's accurate and isn't that what these forums are about?

Wouldn't mind a near standard one now though as they're still the Akira car to me.

geesta

3 posts

164 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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This car is not a Nismo

I know this car and nearly purchased it until I read the auction sheet. Clocks changed to Nismo!

Sorry to upset anybody.

geesta

3 posts

164 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Hellbound said:
This very same car is up on Autotrader for £9k. Must be a mistake.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...


Anyway, this looks like a bargain;

http://www.stylishmotors.com/used-cars/nissan-skyl...
It's the same car.

Andy616

444 posts

135 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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avhbi said:
Andy616 said:
Just looked at your profile, you bought an R32 GTR for £4,500 and expected it to be reliable? laugh
My £4.5k one was in comparison to friends ones absolutely brilliant and didn't let me down that much. BTW I bought direct 8 years ago! £4500 was an ok price then. It had n1 turbos, carbonetic twin plate clutch, strengthened gearbox (not giken went on to live in gtr no2), and alot of other decent bits. Went better than alot and was reasonably responsive. However I got scared and sold up after watching several friends trials and tribulations with them.

R33 (no1 big name builder) £12k build blew within 1000 miles. Another R33 was solidish apart from gearboxes and clutches but he lost faith after £20k as it drove like a pig (no2 big name builder) Another r34 with god knows what but the parts bill was £14k and it drank oil (no2 big name builder). He also cut his losses and it went to Scandinavia.

Maybe not an absolutely scientific spread but, it is MY experience, it's accurate and isn't that what these forums are about?

Wouldn't mind a near standard one now though as they're still the Akira car to me.
Fair point and a well reasoned argument. thumbup

My bad as I assumed you were talking about your own car. I think we can both agree that Skylines that have been messed about with tend to be troublesome.

The one in the article looks like a bit a of a dog and as has been said has quite a few issues:

- The headlights are wrong.
- The front splitter has been painted.
- The mirrors are wrong.
- The engine covers are wrong, could be a replaced engine.
- The top struts look to have been welded.
- Lots of aftermarket bits under the bonnet: Strut brace, oil filter relocation, different afms.
- Standard air box has been replaced.
- Tat stuck all over the interior.
- Wrong centre console surround.
- Wrong seats.

Those are just the issues visible in the pictures. It may well be a genuine Nismo car (unfortunately the chassis number isn't visible in the pictures) but it needs a lot of effort to get it back to anywhere near standard.

geesta

3 posts

164 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Andy616 said:
Fair point and a well reasoned argument. thumbup

My bad as I assumed you were talking about your own car. I think we can both agree that Skylines that have been messed about with tend to be troublesome.

The one in the article looks like a bit a of a dog and as has been said has quite a few issues:

- The headlights are wrong.
- The front splitter has been painted.
- The mirrors are wrong.
- The engine covers are wrong, could be a replaced engine.
- The top struts look to have been welded.
- Lots of aftermarket bits under the bonnet: Strut brace, oil filter relocation, different afms.
- Standard air box has been replaced.
- Tat stuck all over the interior.
- Wrong centre console surround.
- Wrong seats.

Those are just the issues visible in the pictures. It may well be a genuine Nismo car (unfortunately the chassis number isn't visible in the pictures) but it needs a lot of effort to get it back to anywhere near standard.
It's like it's not a real Nismo

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

182 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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In Britain in Britain?