Flemke - Is this your McLaren? (Vol 5)

[epom]

longshot said:

5 volumes?

Flemke, is it your Mclaren or not?

He's never actually answered it has he ? Deffo about time Custard was called.

[E65Ross]

will_ said:

Soov535 said:

One imagines that even Nick Mason must be considering his options with 250GTO which he has owned for decades. Surely there comes a point at which even if one has vast other resources and assets, it becomes difficult to resist such a windfall, especially if one factors in the possibility of a correction in the market.

Given the relatively poor performance of the 250 GTO last night you could rightly be wondering if the correction has just happened.

The F1 may show a similar picture at Gooding & Co over the weekend.

What did I miss?

[Soov535]

E65Ross said:

will_ said:

Soov535 said:

One imagines that even Nick Mason must be considering his options with 250GTO which he has owned for decades. Surely there comes a point at which even if one has vast other resources and assets, it becomes difficult to resist such a windfall, especially if one factors in the possibility of a correction in the market.

Given the relatively poor performance of the 250 GTO last night you could rightly be wondering if the correction has just happened.

The F1 may show a similar picture at Gooding & Co over the weekend.

What did I miss?

The 250GTO went for $38m, well under what they though ti might.

To be honest I suspect that this car might be tainted by the fact that someone died in it.

[R_U_LOCAL]

E65Ross said:

What did I miss?

A 250 GTO was sold at auction n Monterey last night. It had been predicted that it may be the first car to break the $100,000,000 barrier.

In the end it only reached a trifling $34,650,000.

I thing they should have shifted it through my local car auctions. I might have had a bid. At least, it would have been between that and a red Vauxhall Corsa with faded paint...

[Animal]

Soov535 said:

The 250GTO went for $38m, well under what they though ti might.

To be honest I suspect that this car might be tainted by the fact that someone died in it.

Who?

[fatboy69]

ilduce said:

fatboy69 said:

So. You car is beginning to look dated. In a while it will look ok again don't worry.

I'm not worried, but thank you for your concern.





The above two lines, out of literally thousands on the threads, made me chuckle quite a lot.

One because it is just such a daft thing to say & the other because it is a perfect put-down.

You can't see that it's beginning to look dated because you are blinded by your love of Flemke.
You really should change your name to fanboy69.

If you had read the thread properly, which clearly you haven't, you will have noted that I didn't make either of those two comments.

The first was lifted from someone else's posting (the guy basically said that the F1 was a little ugly & dated....) & the second was Flemkes reply.

That's all. No fan-boy brown nosing from me.

Edited by fatboy69 on Friday 15th August 12:21

[Soov535]

Animal said:

Soov535 said:

The 250GTO went for $38m, well under what they though ti might.

To be honest I suspect that this car might be tainted by the fact that someone died in it.

Who?

I believe the original owner crashed it and was killed. The car was rebuilt by Ferrari.

[Soov535]

Animal said:

Soov535 said:

The 250GTO went for $38m, well under what they though ti might.

To be honest I suspect that this car might be tainted by the fact that someone died in it.

Who?

New York Times said:

For most of its existence, the car belonged to Fabrizio Violati, a wealthy Italian amateur driver who died in 2010. The former French Olympic ski champion Henri Oreiller was killed while driving it in a race at Montlhéry, France, in 1962. The car was rebuilt by the Ferrari factory.

[ilduce]

E65Ross said:

You have said two very different things though.

It's beginning to look dated. But don't worry, it will ok again in a while.

By saying that you're saying that because it looks dated it doesn't look good. Yes, it looks dated, but it still looks OK. You don't have to be a fanboy to see you've made 2 differing comments in the same sentence.

A 250gto looks very dated, still looks OK though.

dated
adjective
2.
old-fashioned.

No. wait! That still could be interpreted wrongly by the navel gazing fanboys.

dated: it's a nice way of me saying it's beginning to look a bit st.

There. Go and cry. Or not.

[R_U_LOCAL]

Flemke,

Carbon brakes.

I understand the benefits for race cars, but I've always had some nagging doubts about whether they are beneficial on the road. I'm interested to see that you've had matching metal discs made up, presumably so that they're interchangeable with the carbon brakes.

Is it your intention to run carbon brakes on track and metal brakes on the road?

Setting aside the heat & balance issues you described earlier, can you give a description of the different characteristics of carbon v metal brakes? Initial bite? Feel? Fade? Ability to modulate at high and low speeds?

We've all read road tests of high performance cars with carbon brakes and of cars with metal brakes, but I don't recall ever reading a test of the same car fitted with both types of brakes for comparison.

[E65Ross]

ilduce said:

E65Ross said:

You have said two very different things though.

It's beginning to look dated. But don't worry, it will ok again in a while.

By saying that you're saying that because it looks dated it doesn't look good. Yes, it looks dated, but it still looks OK. You don't have to be a fanboy to see you've made 2 differing comments in the same sentence.

A 250gto looks very dated, still looks OK though.

dated
adjective
2.
old-fashioned.

No. wait! That still could be interpreted wrongly by the navel gazing fanboys.

dated: it's a nice way of me saying it's beginning to look a bit st.

There. Go and cry. Or not.

Wait, you've posted a definition of dated, which doesn't mention looking a bit st. If you think it looks st then fine. But many don't. Are all of those who like the McLaren F1s styling fanboys?

[Mjunkie]

flemke said:

I "need" a disc size that is available in both iron and carbon-carbon. In turn, that dictates the dimensions of the uprights. I need calipers that are designed to work with both iron and carbon-carbon. To use a different size disc at the rear would require different uprights and different calipers. Even if the right calipers were available, I am not all that keen to have to have new uprights made up, buy new calipers, etc.
Then we have the fact that you can't buy carbon-carbon discs in any old size. Indeed, it took some work to persuade Carbon Industrie to supply me with any discs at all for a road car. You can have a larger disc machined down to size, but that is more hassle.

I think we'll get this sorted. Worst case, we can augment the front brake cooling, but the guys advising me don't expect that to be necessary.

Has your car already had a set of custom uprights made up for the AP calipers? What are they made of? I read an amazing article of a guy restoring a f40lm and he had some made in something call Avonil (i think).

Also has yours had different suspension? I was reading an interview from Gordon Murray that his XP car had the LM suspension and sports exhaust.

Drove an M3 CSL a few months ago and all I think is "half an f1 engine!" Stupid boy!

Again, thankyou for taking the time to answer.

[alecmets2011]

E65Ross said:

ilduce said:

E65Ross said:

You have said two very different things though.

It's beginning to look dated. But don't worry, it will ok again in a while.

By saying that you're saying that because it looks dated it doesn't look good. Yes, it looks dated, but it still looks OK. You don't have to be a fanboy to see you've made 2 differing comments in the same sentence.

A 250gto looks very dated, still looks OK though.

dated
adjective
2.
old-fashioned.

No. wait! That still could be interpreted wrongly by the navel gazing fanboys.

dated: it's a nice way of me saying it's beginning to look a bit st.

There. Go and cry. Or not.

Wait, you've posted a definition of dated, which doesn't mention looking a bit st. If you think it looks st then fine. But many don't. Are all of those who like the McLaren F1s styling fanboys?

Children please stop fighting.


Flemke, what do you plan on changing after the brakes are completed? Or by that point will the car meet all of your standards?

[trackdemon]

Is it about time someone ruined the thread by posting this?

http://www.nbc.com/jay-lenos-garage/photos/mclaren...

I can imagine it's appearance will be a bit divisive....

[lauda]

trackdemon said:

Is it about time someone ruined the thread by posting this?

http://www.nbc.com/jay-lenos-garage/photos/mclaren...

I can imagine it's appearance will be a bit divisive....

Crikey, that's...striking. I quite like the fact that you can see a lot the 'guts' at the back but the rear spoiler and exhausts are comedically over-sized.

[suffolk009]

Peloton25 said:

Spotted today in the paddock at Laguna Seca under the Virtuoso Performance tent - this is chassis 042 which has been off the radar for me since 2011. Images are courtesy of Supercars.net and are clickable for larger versions.

If somebody would just move that McLaren we could have a look at the beautiful Ginetta G4 behind it.

[ilduce]

alecmets2011 said:

E65Ross said:

ilduce said:

E65Ross said:

You have said two very different things though.

It's beginning to look dated. But don't worry, it will ok again in a while.

By saying that you're saying that because it looks dated it doesn't look good. Yes, it looks dated, but it still looks OK. You don't have to be a fanboy to see you've made 2 differing comments in the same sentence.

A 250gto looks very dated, still looks OK though.

dated
adjective
2.
old-fashioned.

No. wait! That still could be interpreted wrongly by the navel gazing fanboys.

dated: it's a nice way of me saying it's beginning to look a bit st.

There. Go and cry. Or not.

Wait, you've posted a definition of dated, which doesn't mention looking a bit st. If you think it looks st then fine. But many don't. Are all of those who like the McLaren F1s styling fanboys?

Children please stop fighting.


Flemke, what do you plan on changing after the brakes are completed? Or by that point will the car meet all of your standards?

Daddy, what does sycophancy mean?

[lauda]

ilduce said:

Daddy, what does sycophancy mean?

I don't know. But I know what a needlessly contrary attention-we is.

This thread is normally free of needless, petty bickering. So just take it somewhere else.

[andyps]

trackdemon said:

Is it about time someone ruined the thread by posting this?

http://www.nbc.com/jay-lenos-garage/photos/mclaren...

I can imagine it's appearance will be a bit divisive....

I just saw those pictures and wondered if there might be a call to McLaren Automotive from flemke asking for the GTR door mirrors on his P1 to match the F1.

Edited by andyps on Sunday 17th August 13:44

[Rich_W]

lauda said:

trackdemon said:

Is it about time someone ruined the thread by posting this?

http://www.nbc.com/jay-lenos-garage/photos/mclaren...

I can imagine it's appearance will be a bit divisive....

Crikey, that's...striking. I quite like the fact that you can see a lot the 'guts' at the back but the rear spoiler and exhausts are comedically over-sized.

Fully blacked out windows suggest this car doesn't run. Probably no interior at all.