Seriously Overpriced Cars

[A Winner Is You]

PhantomPH said:

Have you ever seen a more hatefully ugly car in all your life?? And yet despite this thread, someone will pay over £7k for it....

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/11019185

It's a car that's so uncool it's gone full circle and become ironically cool. Not for that price mind you.

[J4CKO]

uncleluck said:

Jimmy Recard said:

In 1990 people would have said the same about the Sierra RS Cosworth

I still think it's way too much for any Focus RS in 2020 though

Thing with modern cars is they have zero substance.

The cosworth, you pop the bonnet and get actual metal parts! That cosworth can cover, plenum, turbo on display.

Modern ltd editions are nothing more than badges, fake vents and plastic engine covers with badges to tell you what they are. Pull the cover off a new FRS and ask people what it is... open a cosworth bonnet and even my GF knows it’s a cosworth.

Anyone speculating with modern RS fords must be barmy. When people wake up to the fact modern cars have no real substance to back up the badge they’ll be as worthless as the base model they look like when you remove the plastic engine cover.

This is happening everywhere now, same thing with watches IMO too. Brands making things look like the old models and charging crazy amounts yet those of us with the old models just see a cheap, nasty version without the detail that makes them so great. Some just see the badge.

"Zero Substance", what are you on about ?

I cant actually come up with anything concrete so use "Substance" as its vague and cant be quantified, but it means you dont like it because its recent and you dont like recent things

A Focus RS is better in every way than a Sierra Cosworth, its called progress, do I want one more ? no, not really.

A Focus is better built than a Sierra, crash one or leave it out for ten winters, then see which one fares better.

A Focus RS has radically different underpinnings to the base model that had a huge amount of development, different engine with 350 bhp, four wheels drive, fancy diff, different suspension etc.

Why do you need to see metal bits in an engine bay, its just a cover over the same stuff that the Sierra had, a four cylinder 16 valve Turbocharged engine.

Every RS car eventually goes up, even ones that werent really that well received at the time, Mk5 Escort RS 2000s and Fiesta RS Turbos etc.

[Justin Case]

PhantomPH said:

Have you ever seen a more hatefully ugly car in all your life?? And yet despite this thread, someone will pay over £7k for it....

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/11019185

Not as bad a car as some would have us believe but I wouldn't buy it any price from someone who puts out an ad like that.

Edited by Justin Case on Saturday 7th November 18:06

[AstonZagato]

PhantomPH said:

Have you ever seen a more hatefully ugly car in all your life?? And yet despite this thread, someone will pay over £7k for it....

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/11019185

The Vanden Plas version, no less!

My mate's Grandfather had one from new (in the same poo brown) that I had a few journeys in back in period. I remember the rear picnic tables. Even as a nipper, I thought it was dreadful.

[A1VDY]

Argleton said:

Car_Nut said:

Think that this is “find another” territory again. Wouldn’t spend £3k of my money on it, but do not think that it is overpriced - must be either unique or very close to unique. With older ordinary cars becoming increasingly chic, if this is kept in this condition, it will be worth more than this in 5 years time & much more in 10 years time.

I don't think any of that applies to a 1999 Renault Megane RXE 5dr.

It doesn't apply. This sort of thing is only fit for driving into the ground then off to the crusher.
We sold one of these in metallic snot green, 19k miles only last year. Granted it was a cat d (tailgate had been replaced at some point), it sold for £750.

[LetsTryAgain]

That’s not even ugly, TBH.
It’s not something I’d buy, but it’s better looking that almost any current BMW, or the first X6, or that awful Alfa SUV thing that looks like an MG ZS.

[Fun Bus]

A1VDY said:

We sold one of these in metallic snot green, 19k miles only last year. Granted it was a cat d (tailgate had been replaced at some point), it sold for £750.

Of course you did. I can’t believe how many examples of cars that come up on this thread you’ve also sold. Usually for next to nothing or scrap. Well done.

[Car_Nut]

waynecyclist said:

No service history how can the mileage be genuine, it could have had the speedo replaced before its first mot, they were noted for dash issues.

Interesting mot history, it was mot'd in November 2005 @ 10518 and was not re-mot'd until September 2019 @ 10609, somehow doubt the mileage

Edited by waynecyclist on Saturday 7th November 09:48

Probably laid up, which accounts for its condition. Look at the condition of the seats - that material shows wear and crushes relatively soon - if it had done say 40k miles it would not look like that. The condition of the engine bay also shows a cosseted life, and low mileage.

[Car_Nut]

trickywoo said:

We’ve found the seller.

No - a remarkably stupid comment.

Edited by Car_Nut on Saturday 7th November 19:53

[Car_Nut]

A Winner Is You said:

PhantomPH said:

Have you ever seen a more hatefully ugly car in all your life?? And yet despite this thread, someone will pay over £7k for it....

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/11019185

It's a car that's so uncool it's gone full circle and become ironically cool. Not for that price mind you.

Quite right. Agree wouldn’t spend £7k+ of my money on it, but suspect that someone will pay something close to that for it. Bizarrely, I don’t think that they are ugly now as they looked in period - they looked startlingly ugly when they appeared, and one wondered how anyone could be blind enough to buy one. Maybe we have become more accustomed to ugly cars!

I am glad that cars like this and the Renault are cherished by someone and are preserved for posterity. It is important that everyday cars from each era can be seen by future generations. Cannot understand the narrow-minded sneering on this thread.

[RDMcG]

Justin Case said:

PhantomPH said:

Have you ever seen a more hatefully ugly car in all your life?? And yet despite this thread, someone will pay over £7k for it....

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/11019185

Not as bad a car as some would have us believe but I wouldn't buy it any price from someone who puts out an ad like that.

Edited by Justin Case on Saturday 7th November 18:06

Luxurious including the expanded vinyl on the seats...it is indeed a fright pig.

[WarrenB]

Car_Nut said:

waynecyclist said:

No service history how can the mileage be genuine, it could have had the speedo replaced before its first mot, they were noted for dash issues.

Interesting mot history, it was mot'd in November 2005 @ 10518 and was not re-mot'd until September 2019 @ 10609, somehow doubt the mileage

Edited by waynecyclist on Saturday 7th November 09:48

Probably laid up, which accounts for its condition. Look at the condition of the seats - that material shows wear and crushes relatively soon - if it had done say 40k miles it would not look like that. The condition of the engine bay also shows a cosseted life, and low mileage.

Steering wheel looks quite shiny for such a low milage though...

[A1VDY]

Fun Bus said:

A1VDY said:

We sold one of these in metallic snot green, 19k miles only last year. Granted it was a cat d (tailgate had been replaced at some point), it sold for £750.

Of course you did. I can’t believe how many examples of cars that come up on this thread you’ve also sold. Usually for next to nothing or scrap. Well done.

Well, we have. That includes the above renault. It also had a crease in the bonnet which we had repainted.
We sell all makes models of cars from all eras. Around two years ago we had a Rover 216, unused for 22 years with 16k on it. It still had a box full of Unipart filters and oil in the boot. We sold that for £995.

Believe/disbelieve what you like...

[Fun Bus]

And I suppose the valeter found a unicorn the glovebox too.

[WarrenB]

A1VDY said:

Well, we have. That includes the above renault. It also had a crease in the bonnet which we had repainted.
We sell all makes models of cars from all eras. Around two years ago we had a Rover 216, unused for 22 years with 16k on it. It still had a box full of Unipart filters and oil in the boot. We sold that for £995.

Believe/disbelieve what you like...

An SD3? I vaguely remember reading about a 'barn find' 216 with a similar story on AROnline.

[Pommy]

Is this regarded as seriously overpriced?

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10941324?c...

[PhantomPH]

A1VDY said:

Well, we have. That includes the above renault. It also had a crease in the bonnet which we had repainted.
We sell all makes models of cars from all eras. Around two years ago we had a Rover 216, unused for 22 years with 16k on it. It still had a box full of Unipart filters and oil in the boot. We sold that for £995.

Believe/disbelieve what you like...

And yet when you are asked a hundred times to provide links to these bargains you have so we can all buy something from you, you fail to follow up on any of those claims. Funny, isn't it?

[CellarDoor]

PhantomPH said:

Have you ever seen a more hatefully ugly car in all your life??

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/11019185

Yes, one of these:

Edited by CellarDoor on Monday 16th November 20:48

[AstonZagato]

CellarDoor said:

PhantomPH said:

Have you ever seen a more hatefully ugly car in all your life??

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/11019185

Yes, one of these:

I always fancied buying an Evoke convertible as a joke. I go to quite a few fancy shoots and I rather liked the idea of tooling around with my dog in the back. A bit too expensive for the frivolity though.

[aaron_2000]

Rust on the arches, missing radio and a dirty interior. By all means its a £1500-£2k car

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-Mercedes-Benz-M-Cl...