Seriously Overpriced Cars

[HM-2]

d_a_n1979 said:

Is it me, or is this way over the odds?!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MERCEDES-E55-AMG-SUPER-...

He'd better move it away from the sea, I can hear it rusting from here!

[anonymous-user]

d_a_n1979 said:

Is it me, or is this way over the odds?!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MERCEDES-E55-AMG-SUPER-...

Yup. Not been mot'd since 2018 either. I'll bet it's rustier than the Titanic.

[PhantomPH]

carlove said:

This California with a BO55 Plate at what looks like a backstreet dealer, which I think has been for sale for ages. Lots of pictures though, I like that.

It’s the third most expensive California on Autotrader, same price as this 3 year newer, (slightly) lower mileage later T model from a main dealer, admittedly it’s not as desirable a colour combination, but still.

I find red Ferraris completely undesirable, so even if they were identical in every way except colour, I would still go for the silver one. As it stands, you'd be nuts to go for the red one if you saw the ads side-by-side like that.

[aaron_2000]

PhantomPH said:

carlove said:

This California with a BO55 Plate at what looks like a backstreet dealer, which I think has been for sale for ages. Lots of pictures though, I like that.

It’s the third most expensive California on Autotrader, same price as this 3 year newer, (slightly) lower mileage later T model from a main dealer, admittedly it’s not as desirable a colour combination, but still.

I find red Ferraris completely undesirable, so even if they were identical in every way except colour, I would still go for the silver one. As it stands, you'd be nuts to go for the red one if you saw the ads side-by-side like that.

I see red Ferrari and I just assume it's a rental. I'd want one in yellow or like you said in silver

[carlove]

PhantomPH said:

I find red Ferraris completely undesirable, so even if they were identical in every way except colour, I would still go for the silver one. As it stands, you'd be nuts to go for the red one if you saw the ads side-by-side like that.

To be honest I’ve always preferred non red Ferraris, I just thought red with creme interior was what buyers wanted.
I like Ferraris in light blue, if I could afford one I’d be getting light blue (I can’t remember what the actual colours called)

ETA - this blue

Edited by carlove on Friday 9th April 15:16

[anonymous-user]

2strokebroke said:

d_a_n1979 said:

Is it me, or is this way over the odds?!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MERCEDES-E55-AMG-SUPER-...

Yup. Not been mot'd since 2018 either. I'll bet it's rustier than the Titanic.

4th pic where the side sill meets the bottom of the wheel arch?

[s m]

aaron_2000 said:

AdeTuono said:

s m said:

Personally I’d be quite happy to daily that ...

Why not? It's not less capable a daily driver as it was 30 years ago, and at least you're left with something that people actually want to talk to you about. My £500 405 used to get compliments and conversations from people all the time and it was far more enjoyable than any run of the mill modern car I've driven, you could be on the limit without breaking the speed limit but till fit a set of wheels and tyres in the boot and a large box, driving old cars is great fun.

Yes, I enjoy driving old cars like you do aaron - they’re not for everyone but used to have lots of fun in my friends Orion Ghia - only n/a Suzuki Swift Sport performance but had all the mod cons on we needed and was nice and ‘adjustable’
In fact my go to fun car is from the same era

[Dapster]

Another appearance by our friends at Bramley - forty grand for a C124, and it's not even the rare C36 AMG. This example is lovely but bonkers pricing.



https://www.bramley.com/carsales/details/Mercedes-...

[AstonZagato]

carlove said:

PhantomPH said:

I find red Ferraris completely undesirable, so even if they were identical in every way except colour, I would still go for the silver one. As it stands, you'd be nuts to go for the red one if you saw the ads side-by-side like that.

To be honest I’ve always preferred non red Ferraris, I just thought red with creme interior was what buyers wanted.
I like Ferraris in light blue, if I could afford one I’d be getting light blue (I can’t remember what the actual colours called)

ETA - this blue

When I bought a 360 many moons ago, I wanted an subdued colour - and definitely NOT red. I called a few dealers and explained what I was looking for colourwise.
"Oh I have one right now. It's Giallo Modena."
"You mean yellow?"
"Yes!"
"In what way is a yellow Ferrari inconspicuous?"
"Er, well... It's not red though."

I bought one in TDF Blue in the end.

[anonymous-user]

Dapster said:

Another appearance by our friends at Bramley - forty grand for a C124, and it's not even the rare C36 AMG. This example is lovely but bonkers pricing.



https://www.bramley.com/carsales/details/Mercedes-...

I can only imagine the market for these are people who, presumably on a whim, decide they want an XYZ and can't be arsed to do any of the bottom feeding to find one the normal way. That intersection between "I want a not very interesting semi classic" and "I have so much money I don't really mind if it's 4x typical market value" is clearly big enough for a few dealers to make a living from it.

I'd hope they replace every perishable part given what they charge, but I suspect it's mostly cosmetic "restoration".

[PhantomPH]

AstonZagato said:

carlove said:

PhantomPH said:

I find red Ferraris completely undesirable, so even if they were identical in every way except colour, I would still go for the silver one. As it stands, you'd be nuts to go for the red one if you saw the ads side-by-side like that.

To be honest I’ve always preferred non red Ferraris, I just thought red with creme interior was what buyers wanted.
I like Ferraris in light blue, if I could afford one I’d be getting light blue (I can’t remember what the actual colours called)

ETA - this blue

When I bought a 360 many moons ago, I wanted an subdued colour - and definitely NOT red. I called a few dealers and explained what I was looking for colourwise.
"Oh I have one right now. It's Giallo Modena."
"You mean yellow?"
"Yes!"
"In what way is a yellow Ferrari inconspicuous?"
"Er, well... It's not red though."

I bought one in TDF Blue in the end.

Came VERY close to picking up a TDF 360 last year. I opted for being diagnosed with cancer instead. Ha ha Good news is I should be in a position to start shopping again later this year, so assuming the market hasn't moved too much, I will be looking out for TDF or one of the silvers. Black at a push. :thumbsup:

[anonymous-user]

BMW E21 316. According to the dealer it's supposed to be rust and rot free. You can see plenty of rust and rot in the pics though. It's also about five different colours. £12,500 The car registration does rather fit the vendor.

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1327258

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 10th April 13:40

[anonymous-user]

Another knobber with a Volvo 480 for sale at £7850.

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1327139

[PhantomPH]

2strokebroke said:

BMW E21 316. According to the dealer it's supposed to be rust and rot free. You can see plenty of rust and rot in the pics though. It's also about five different colours. £12,500 The car registration does rather fit the vendor.

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1327258

Edited by 2strokebroke on Saturday 10th April 13:40

It's the arty 'car wash' photo that first made me smile, but then I saw the inexplicable choice of shots that really highlight the sketchy panel gaps. You could climb in the door without opening it and the bonnet appears to be following a contour that no neighbouring panel does... :shrug:

ETA: Also includes my pet hate "very unique". There is no scale of 'unique' - it either is or it isn't. :explode:

Edited by PhantomPH on Saturday 10th April 15:21

[HM-2]

Also, the driver's side door is a totally different colour from the wing or rear quarter.

Wouldn't £13k get you a nice 323i? A mate of mine bought an E21 316i for £550 about 10 years ago as the basis for a track car with an M20 2.5, and that had less rust than this one.

Edited by HM-2 on Saturday 10th April 17:01

[161BMW]

HM-2 said:

Also, the driver's side door is a totally different colour from the wing or rear quarter.

Wouldn't £13k get you a nice 323i? A mate of mine bought an E21 316i for £550 about 10 years ago as the basis for a track car with an M20 2.5, and that had less rust than this one.

Edited by HM-2 on Saturday 10th April 17:01

E21 323i are priced at £20k apparently.

[ric p]

stickleback123 said:

I can only imagine the market for these are people who, presumably on a whim, decide they want an XYZ and can't be arsed to do any of the bottom feeding to find one the normal way. That intersection between "I want a not very interesting semi classic" and "I have so much money I don't really mind if it's 4x typical market value" is clearly big enough for a few dealers to make a living from it.

I'd hope they replace every perishable part given what they charge, but I suspect it's mostly cosmetic "restoration".

I owned one of these a couple of years ago, almost exactly the same spec, blue, mushroon leather, sports suspension etc. Mine must have been one of the last made bought from an old boy in Exmouth. Had 115k on it but in very nice condition and completely standard.

Sold it for a realistic £6K. £10k tops but £40k? Insanity!

[FIREBIRDC9]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-Ford-Mustang-Conve...


2001 Mustang Convertible

116k Miles

V6

"Appreciating Classic"

Its the generation of Mustang that few like , with high miles , and the undesirable engine...... And they want nearly 9 grand!


Probably cost less to import a far better condition V8 one!

[rampageturke]

FIREBIRDC9 said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-Ford-Mustang-Conve...


2001 Mustang Convertible

116k Miles

V6

"Appreciating Classic"

Its the generation of Mustang that few like , with high miles , and the undesirable engine...... And they want nearly 9 grand!


Probably cost less to import a far better condition V8 one!

Don't forget the automatic gerabox

[Krikkit]

PhantomPH said:

Came VERY close to picking up a TDF 360 last year. I opted for being diagnosed with cancer instead. Ha ha Good news is I should be in a position to start shopping again later this year, so assuming the market hasn't moved too much, I will be looking out for TDF or one of the silvers. Black at a push. :thumbsup:

Fingers crossed for you on 2 fronts!