RE: Ferrari FF: Review
Discussion
I got chatting to a Sikh chap who arrived at the petrol station when filling up, he was in a brand new Black FF and was brimming with enthusiasm for it. I don't normally accost people in petrol stations but I just made comment as to having never seen one in the flesh and how stunning it was, he was very chatty and like a kid on Christmas Day.
It looks so much better in black!
Are these like other Ferraris when it comes to mileage? As in, if you put proper miles on them does the value plummet?
It's just that unlike other models from Ferrari it does seem like this is one you would only buy if you were actually going to use it. It doesn't seem like the kind of car someone would buy for posing around Knightsbridge in, those people would probably buy the F12.
Are these like other Ferraris when it comes to mileage? As in, if you put proper miles on them does the value plummet?
It's just that unlike other models from Ferrari it does seem like this is one you would only buy if you were actually going to use it. It doesn't seem like the kind of car someone would buy for posing around Knightsbridge in, those people would probably buy the F12.
leglessAlex said:
It looks so much better in black!
Are these like other Ferraris when it comes to mileage? As in, if you put proper miles on them does the value plummet?
It's just that unlike other models from Ferrari it does seem like this is one you would only buy if you were actually going to use it. It doesn't seem like the kind of car someone would buy for posing around Knightsbridge in, those people would probably buy the F12.
Correct, they're a car to use.Are these like other Ferraris when it comes to mileage? As in, if you put proper miles on them does the value plummet?
It's just that unlike other models from Ferrari it does seem like this is one you would only buy if you were actually going to use it. It doesn't seem like the kind of car someone would buy for posing around Knightsbridge in, those people would probably buy the F12.
It's not as exciting as the 458 but I can't fit the family in that.
Less mileage sensitive too, but still as with all the V12s big depreciation from new, but a great used buy.
ts Ferrari are.
bertie said:
TTmonkey said:
I think anyone that buys one of these and puts on 'average' mileage over three years - ie, 40k, would be losing 60%+ on their purchase price. That's a lot of money to lose if you paid 300k!
So a great car for everyday use... but a massive cost.
..but a great used buy!So a great car for everyday use... but a massive cost.
The 599 and The FF are personal favourites of mine, stunning cars. I have a deep regret that this kind of car will only ever be available to me as a lottery win dream. Should have worked harder in school and/or taken bigger risks as a young man.
TTmonkey said:
Yep. I also think the 599 gtb is incredible value for money for a 4-5 year old Ferrari. Similar sort of car really, big expensive car.
The 599 and The FF are personal favourites of mine, stunning cars. I have a deep regret that this kind of car will only ever be available to me as a lottery win dream. Should have worked harder in school and/or taken bigger risks as a young man.
Indeed, the 599 is an awful lot of car for the money, had one before the 458, however I have to say the FF feels a generation on from the 599.The 599 and The FF are personal favourites of mine, stunning cars. I have a deep regret that this kind of car will only ever be available to me as a lottery win dream. Should have worked harder in school and/or taken bigger risks as a young man.
The FF gets its power down so well, where the 599 can feel a bit overwhelmed by its engine in less than ideal weather or road conditions.
Add in the 4 seats, comfort and sheer usability of the FF and it's a fantastic package IMHO
bertie said:
TTmonkey said:
Yep. I also think the 599 gtb is incredible value for money for a 4-5 year old Ferrari. Similar sort of car really, big expensive car.
The 599 and The FF are personal favourites of mine, stunning cars. I have a deep regret that this kind of car will only ever be available to me as a lottery win dream. Should have worked harder in school and/or taken bigger risks as a young man.
Indeed, the 599 is an awful lot of car for the money, had one before the 458, however I have to say the FF feels a generation on from the 599.The 599 and The FF are personal favourites of mine, stunning cars. I have a deep regret that this kind of car will only ever be available to me as a lottery win dream. Should have worked harder in school and/or taken bigger risks as a young man.
The FF gets its power down so well, where the 599 can feel a bit overwhelmed by its engine in less than ideal weather or road conditions.
Add in the 4 seats, comfort and sheer usability of the FF and it's a fantastic package IMHO
Would be interested in your opinion on the BMW, do you see a similarity in the design that also attracted yu when they were new?
Yes the 599 is from another decade isn't it? Still a visually appealing car, but the sheer muscle of the latest gen F's make it look dated in terms of packaging and technology. A thumping monster of a car, with virtually no subtly, unlike its replacement.
mrclav said:
What alternatives are there to this car that are currently on sale? Ones that come with 'true' exclusivity (I'm looking at you, Bentley Continental/VW Passat), a rabid 660bhp N/A V12, seat 4, have a big boot and include a 7-year warranty? That's right, none!
As far as I'm aware Ferraris do not come with 7 year warranties, that's Kia 
I suspect you mean the 7 year service package, and the 4 year warranty. Ferrari warranty can also be a questionable companion. When all 4 brackets for the rear lights on my 16M had broken I was told it was not a warranty claim item as "somebody must have leant on them", one by one I guess
it was only a one hour labour job but came to £1700 - "ferrari parts sir" ....Your Bentley/passat comment is also a tad unfair; not in its factual sense but in the reality sense. It may share components with its less glamorous brethren but it is a more solid car. On more occasions than not, I would walk past the Ferrari to drive the Bentley which still always felt like a special occasion. It's a common sight on our roads for a reason.
Saying all the above, I agree with the general inference of your full post and the FF is still a wonderful anomaly amongst the wannabe supercars and I for one love it for that.
I saw one in Geneva over the weekend. They are absolutely massive! So much presence.
Still cannot get over the fact that an F10 M5 matches it in terms of performance once rolling over 50mph.
Either the M5 has a conservative BHP claim or the FF has too much drive train power loss through its complex 4 wheel drive system.
Either way, still an awesome way to travel. Mega prescence too.
Still cannot get over the fact that an F10 M5 matches it in terms of performance once rolling over 50mph.
Either the M5 has a conservative BHP claim or the FF has too much drive train power loss through its complex 4 wheel drive system.
Either way, still an awesome way to travel. Mega prescence too.
Edited by Schermerhorn on Tuesday 10th March 08:30
Europa1 said:
I have no doubt they are awesome cars, and I take my hat off to Ferrari for being bold and producing a shooting brake. As I'm never likely to be in a position to trouble a Ferrari dealer, they won't care about my views, but I just can't get past the gaping mouth on them.
Got to cool a thumping great 650hp V12 somehow...plus it's a happy face! 
Edited by bertie on Tuesday 10th March 09:49
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