RE: Nissan Juke NISMO RS: Driven
Discussion
laser7 said:
Very, very slow given all the labels on it that hint at this car being fast. Many modern diesels would spank it. This is the total opposite of a Q-car.
The old one was pretty quick though in straight line terms, just the normal NISMO. I bet a few Cooper S drivers were slightly surprised.Mind you, they weighed barely more than a GT86 so I guess all that power had to go somewhere
The new one is a bit heavier and slower looking at the bare numbers
s m said:
laser7 said:
Very, very slow given all the labels on it that hint at this car being fast. Many modern diesels would spank it. This is the total opposite of a Q-car.
The old one was pretty quick though in straight line terms, just the normal NISMO. I bet a few Cooper S drivers were slightly surprised.Mind you, they weighed barely more than a GT86 so I guess all that power had to go somewhere
The new one is a bit heavier and slower looking at the bare numbers
dukebox9reg said:
s m said:
laser7 said:
Very, very slow given all the labels on it that hint at this car being fast. Many modern diesels would spank it. This is the total opposite of a Q-car.
The old one was pretty quick though in straight line terms, just the normal NISMO. I bet a few Cooper S drivers were slightly surprised.Mind you, they weighed barely more than a GT86 so I guess all that power had to go somewhere
The new one is a bit heavier and slower looking at the bare numbers
Qussz said:
soad said:
Qussz said:
I thought these had a massive turbo engine and 4wd ;(
There you go - Driven: Nissan Juke-RThe looks will always divide opinion but if it had a good engine, 4wd and handling upgrades by Nismo, it would live up to it's badge and be a total hoot.
Currently it is a tepid crossover with a big badge on, trying too hard, although it is not sure what it wants to be!
That is just my opinion, of course.
Well, I'm going to struggle against the flow and say I like it. I love the styling, the performance would be good enough, I'd have one if it suited our needs, which unfortunately it doesn't at the moment.
Regarding this - "Those final few tenths where the best performance cars shine is not a happy place for the Juke - it loses precision, becomes quite ragged and feels rather flustered." - I'd prefer that than something so utterly safe and predictable that you can't ever begin to get it out of shape, no matter how hard you try. I'd rather drive something with lower limits that I can play with at normal speeds, than have something that's so utterly competent it feels boring all the time.
Regarding this - "Those final few tenths where the best performance cars shine is not a happy place for the Juke - it loses precision, becomes quite ragged and feels rather flustered." - I'd prefer that than something so utterly safe and predictable that you can't ever begin to get it out of shape, no matter how hard you try. I'd rather drive something with lower limits that I can play with at normal speeds, than have something that's so utterly competent it feels boring all the time.
ode said:
Well, I'm going to struggle against the flow and say I like it. I love the styling, the performance would be good enough, I'd have one if it suited our needs, which unfortunately it doesn't at the moment.
Regarding this - "Those final few tenths where the best performance cars shine is not a happy place for the Juke - it loses precision, becomes quite ragged and feels rather flustered." - I'd prefer that than something so utterly safe and predictable that you can't ever begin to get it out of shape, no matter how hard you try. I'd rather drive something with lower limits that I can play with at normal speeds, than have something that's so utterly competent it feels boring all the time.
The reviewer does not mean that the car has low, accessible limits (see an MX5, for example) but that it loses composure, predictability and balance anywhere its limits (which are probably fairly high) - i.e. you push, push some more and then it goes to st in a really annoying and unusable way. A bit like an Audi or any other shopping car with a shopping car chassis but the turbo turned up to "fast".Regarding this - "Those final few tenths where the best performance cars shine is not a happy place for the Juke - it loses precision, becomes quite ragged and feels rather flustered." - I'd prefer that than something so utterly safe and predictable that you can't ever begin to get it out of shape, no matter how hard you try. I'd rather drive something with lower limits that I can play with at normal speeds, than have something that's so utterly competent it feels boring all the time.
7 seconds to 60 is genuinely embarrassing for a car with a NISMO badge on it. I would expect a NISMO car in 2015 to keep pace with an entry level Porsche, not an entry level diesel repmobile.
Truckosaurus said:
I've just picked up one of these on a 2yr Lease to replace my M5 Touring.
I was looking for something 'left field' as anything sensible would pale into insignificance compared to the M5.
The Nismo Joke (as my Dreadful Mates have christened it) is amusing around town and whilst making progress on the open road (short gearing means it is in its power band in 6th gear at 60-80mph).
It Torque-Steers like nothing else (and I've had several turbo Saabs!) which its entertaining at first as it makes the car seems 'lively' but in the wet it might catch people unaware.
For Good or Ill, I bumped into my Gay Neighbour in the street last week and he was very enthusiastic about the Juke, whereas he's never mentioned any of my other cars.
I just can't see it on any level... Swapping a devastatingly fast, effective, fully developed, coherent and practical car for the Juke... I was looking for something 'left field' as anything sensible would pale into insignificance compared to the M5.
The Nismo Joke (as my Dreadful Mates have christened it) is amusing around town and whilst making progress on the open road (short gearing means it is in its power band in 6th gear at 60-80mph).
It Torque-Steers like nothing else (and I've had several turbo Saabs!) which its entertaining at first as it makes the car seems 'lively' but in the wet it might catch people unaware.
For Good or Ill, I bumped into my Gay Neighbour in the street last week and he was very enthusiastic about the Juke, whereas he's never mentioned any of my other cars.
jamespink said:
I just can't see it on any level... Swapping a devastatingly fast, effective, fully developed, coherent and practical car for the Juke...
I am, of course, a nutter.There is the sensible reason of the M5 being a financial liability once the AUC warranty runs out (or would cost nearly the same as the Juke's monthly lease to re-new) so now's the time to sell it for a decent price, and have some money in the bank for something else when the Juke's 2yr lease is up.
ORD said:
NISMO RS with a 1.6l engine? 0-60 in what is, by today's standards, family car pace?
It's a piece of marketing tat, to be frank. A car for people who know nothing about cars.
I can't say I dislike it. A quirky, practical car with a sense of humour? Doesn't sound too bad to me. It's a piece of marketing tat, to be frank. A car for people who know nothing about cars.
laser7 said:
Very, very slow given all the labels on it that hint at this car being fast. Many modern diesels would spank it. This is the total opposite of a Q-car.
So what if a dreary diesel saloon can beat it. Why not focus on how it would make you feel to own and drive? Better than comparing appendage size with straight line heroes. BeirutTaxi said:
laser7 said:
Very, very slow given all the labels on it that hint at this car being fast. Many modern diesels would spank it. This is the total opposite of a Q-car.
So what if a dreary diesel saloon can beat it. Why not focus on how it would make you feel to own and drive? Better than comparing appendage size with straight line heroes. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff