RE: Ford Mustang Ecoboost Convertible: Driven
Discussion
Some cars have their natural environment. Typically the home of the V6 Mustang Convertible was always the rental car pound at an American airport. Nothing wrong with that.
I fear this particular Mustang will be out of its natural environment in Europe, but the V8 fastback seems a lot better.
I do wonder if there will actually be a significant demand though once the launch hype has faded.
I fear this particular Mustang will be out of its natural environment in Europe, but the V8 fastback seems a lot better.
I do wonder if there will actually be a significant demand though once the launch hype has faded.
Otispunkmeyer said:
Standard 4 cylinder turbo then. Sounds like a threshing machine and busts its lungs at anything over 5k rpm.
It such a shame 4 cylinders are the most prolific engines. They are universally bad in the aural department (with very few exceptions). None of them sound anything but flatulent. Firmly of the opinion that these engines, like little boys, should be seen but not heard.
The AMG45 loves to rev so it's clearly not just an issue with four-cyl turbos. Many seem tuned for minimum-effort speed which is a shame. Hopefully the Civic Type R and indeed the Focus RS can hit the noise and willingness criteria!It such a shame 4 cylinders are the most prolific engines. They are universally bad in the aural department (with very few exceptions). None of them sound anything but flatulent. Firmly of the opinion that these engines, like little boys, should be seen but not heard.
This will still sell well. The reason being is the same as why V6 automatic convertibles sold well here in the US for decades: They look good and they're cheap. This is not intended for enthusiasts. It is intended for putting the top down 10 days a year (not in summer, too hot the owners say), and for telling people you have a Mustang, and spent Honda Accord money for it. The other market is rental fleets -- they buy them by the truckload.
Seems like a decent car if the price is right. Over here in the States a base V6 is around 24-27k Dollars ex sales taxes depending on options. Amazing to think that 300bhp is considered not very fast these days! Speaking as the owner of a 2014 (last version) V8 5.0 I can barely get enough speed up on Wisconsin roads before my teeth threaten to leave my head! Having the V8 is mainly about traffic light grand prix against souped up Toyotas and Hondas.
Esceptico said:
redroadster said:
Ok it's not as good as v8 however it will appeal to high mileage drivers and woman drivers who are not interested in going fast....
Buying a US car like the Mustang comes with certain compromises. Despite their best efforts it is not up to the standard of European fare like BMW or Audi in terms of interior quality and design nor handling and ride for European roads. With the V8 those compromises are offset with the soundtrack and the power and delivery of the engine. Without the V8 it doesn't seem very appealing to me. Will be interesting to see what the market thinks.I am so bored of the interior quality thing, this new one looks a lot better than the old one in terms of quality and we have to remember that the top spec V8 is 35 grand, an M4 starts at 57 grand, makes me wonder where the other 22 grand goes, less cylinders, same power, they must be very expensive plastics they use on the dash. Plus, the Mustang is far far more exclusive, much as we all like an M3/M4, its not that different to the repomobile M sport 320D. I am somewhat playing devils advocate there but it will be interesting to see if the M4 is 22 grand better than the Mustang.
The Ecoboost we should remember is still a RWD coupe/comvertible with over 300 bhp, but apparently we are still in 1973 and its apparently only for women, my missus wants a Mustang but only the V8, with a couple of mods already available the tuners have woken the Ecoboost up so it does a quarter in 12.6 which is pretty damn quick.
oldtimer2 said:
No doubt the 4 cyl version is aimed at a different part of the market than the V8. It will sell on looks and because it costs less to buy and to own. My guess is that it will sell well, though not necessarily here in the UK.
Funnily enough the 2.3 appears to be selling well in the States because the buyers are worried about the economy of the V8 and the cost of running one. Meanwhile a good majority of the Brits that have pre-ordered, have gone for the thirsty 5.0, including myself.Weird considering we pay about 4 times more for our petrol than they do
J4CKO said:
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Totally agree. Most of the people commenting on here have never driven one. Yes in the past they were a bit naff but were more fun than 95% of anything on sale in Europe. Now they're here with a 420bhp V8 for less than a packet of crisps and still they moan that it doesn't have the touchy feely plastics they have in their twice the price Audi. I despair. croyde said:
oldtimer2 said:
No doubt the 4 cyl version is aimed at a different part of the market than the V8. It will sell on looks and because it costs less to buy and to own. My guess is that it will sell well, though not necessarily here in the UK.
Funnily enough the 2.3 appears to be selling well in the States because the buyers are worried about the economy of the V8 and the cost of running one. Meanwhile a good majority of the Brits that have pre-ordered, have gone for the thirsty 5.0, including myself.Weird considering we pay about 4 times more for our petrol than they do
croyde said:
Funnily enough the 2.3 appears to be selling well in the States because the buyers are worried about the economy of the V8 and the cost of running one. Meanwhile a good majority of the Brits that have pre-ordered, have gone for the thirsty 5.0, including myself.
Weird considering we pay about 4 times more for our petrol than they do
There is one key that unlocks the weirdness... Weird considering we pay about 4 times more for our petrol than they do
and makes things more clear. And the key is this: the UK Mustang buyer is generally only one type of customer; the US Mustang buyer may be one of a half-dozen types of customers.
It bears repeating that the Mustang is a niche vehicle in the UK. In its domestic market, meanwhile, the Mustang is a populist machine that appeals to a broad range of consumers and for a variety of reasons.
To wit: The two Mustangs sold in the UK are not offered with the full range of options available in the US. And the V6 and the GT350 are not offered at all.
unpc said:
Now they're here with a 420bhp V8 for less than a packet of crisps
Nice turn of phrase 
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