RE: Lotus Evora 400 :Driven

RE: Lotus Evora 400 :Driven

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Dick Seaman

1,075 posts

222 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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fesuvious said:
Gave mine up for a Challenger Hellcat.

Can't believe I wasted 10months with the Evora400.

I giggle with the Hellcat. Never did that at any point with the Evora.
Roughly translates to, 'the car's strengths are in areas that I don't particularly appreciate so I made a bad choice'

DonkeyApple

54,923 posts

168 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Dick Seaman said:
Roughly translates to, 'the car's strengths are in areas that I don't particularly appreciate so I made a bad choice'
A very valid point but the question is whether those 'strengths' are the fault of the buyer or company? Your general tone seems to imply that you consider it to be the buyer's fault but as he has a 355 which does a very similar job it has to be worth considering that it may be the fault of the company, especially when you consider that they don't sell as many of them as we or Lotus would wish?

John145

2,447 posts

155 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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kambites said:
GroundEffect said:
otolith said:
I remember reading somewhere that the production costs for the 911 and the Cayman/Boxster were similar - there's just an awful lot more margin in a 911 (though of course that ignores development, tooling and marketing costs).
I heard something similar, from a supplier to Porsche. Porsche apparently make $20k+ per 911 which is just ridiculous for this industry.
All credit to them if they can though; it shows why people working in marketing tend to get paid more than engineers. hehe
You'll find in Germany it's the other way around. Which might also influence why they are so good...

otolith

55,899 posts

203 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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DonkeyApple said:
A very valid point but the question is whether those 'strengths' are the fault of the buyer or company? Your general tone seems to imply that you consider it to be the buyer's fault but as he has a 355 which does a very similar job it has to be worth considering that it may be the fault of the company, especially when you consider that they don't sell as many of them as we or Lotus would wish?
I don't think muscle cars are really a good fit with Lotus brand values?

DonkeyApple

54,923 posts

168 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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otolith said:
DonkeyApple said:
A very valid point but the question is whether those 'strengths' are the fault of the buyer or company? Your general tone seems to imply that you consider it to be the buyer's fault but as he has a 355 which does a very similar job it has to be worth considering that it may be the fault of the company, especially when you consider that they don't sell as many of them as we or Lotus would wish?
I don't think muscle cars are really a good fit with Lotus brand values?
Absolutely, they don't have a V8 but I don't think that was being suggested. wink Hence the mention of the 355.

Dick Seaman

1,075 posts

222 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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DonkeyApple said:
Dick Seaman said:
Roughly translates to, 'the car's strengths are in areas that I don't particularly appreciate so I made a bad choice'
A very valid point but the question is whether those 'strengths' are the fault of the buyer or company? Your general tone seems to imply that you consider it to be the buyer's fault but as he has a 355 which does a very similar job it has to be worth considering that it may be the fault of the company, especially when you consider that they don't sell as many of them as we or Lotus would wish?
You're right about the general tone, I was speculating, probably unfairly, that somebody who so clearly enjoys the attributes of a muscle car made a strange choice when they bought an Evora.

Not implying that one is superior to the other, they are both very good but in very different ways. I also assumed that this was the poster's only car, accentuating the strangeness of choice.

Having now seen the poster's current and previous car collection, including the F355, I'll take it back. smile Although I'd be interested to hear what he didn't like about the Evora.

Probably worth adding that I'm an unreasonably passionate Lotus fan. smile




otolith

55,899 posts

203 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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DonkeyApple said:
otolith said:
DonkeyApple said:
A very valid point but the question is whether those 'strengths' are the fault of the buyer or company? Your general tone seems to imply that you consider it to be the buyer's fault but as he has a 355 which does a very similar job it has to be worth considering that it may be the fault of the company, especially when you consider that they don't sell as many of them as we or Lotus would wish?
I don't think muscle cars are really a good fit with Lotus brand values?
Absolutely, they don't have a V8 but I don't think that was being suggested. wink Hence the mention of the 355.
Even with a V8, a mid engined Lotus is going to be a very different kind of proposition to a front engined Yank muscle car.

And if you already have a 355 that you didn't buy the Lotus to replace, that seems a pretty unbalanced garage.

thiscocks

3,127 posts

194 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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Looks great to me. Unfortunately one for my dream garage only