RE: Ford Shelby Mustang GT350: Driven
Discussion
burningdinos said:
Lovely noise 
In this age of downsized, muffled turbo engines, that's something to applaud. I'd never expect an engine like this in a Mustang, but here it is.
The americans really have it easy, what a bargain. Massive want.
Try this one on for size! ..... turn it up to 11! In this age of downsized, muffled turbo engines, that's something to applaud. I'd never expect an engine like this in a Mustang, but here it is.
The americans really have it easy, what a bargain. Massive want.
....https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detai...
glasgowrob said:
damn you Ford not selling us this one
i'd quite happily go kick a few pengiuns, stupid eco lobby ruining things over here
Was it the Eco lobby that prevented Ford bringing this here?i'd quite happily go kick a few pengiuns, stupid eco lobby ruining things over here
I thought it was an accounting decision; i.e.: the numbers they thought they'd sell meant it would be uneconomical to create a RHD production line?
Could be wrong.
Anyway, I can honestly say I would have put money down for one of these. Such a shame they aren't producing one for the UK market.
It won't come to the UK because there are fewer households in the UK. And these households have less disposable income. Whilst simultaneously paying much more for on-the-road and operating costs.
With these maths, the potential UK market for the GT350 is too tiny for an OEM to support.
For those desperate for a GT350, just import the bits from Shelby and get Bill Shepherd to fit. Job done. Shelby's are all just bolt on modifications anyway, despite the marketing blurb.
Can't see it coming over here for a year or three (if ever), but do expect to see various 'special edition' Mustangs (California Special, Mach 1) coming beforehand with mild upgrades, probably mostly cosmetic with perhaps some ECU power upgrades.
Implying that it costs 'the equivalent of £33k' etc is plain misleading though. There's import duty, VAT and shipping etc to add to the sticker price. A RHD V8 GT is already more than that here.
So you may pay the equivalent of £33k stateside, but expect a much more sizeable dent in your wallet by the time you've got it home and legalised for use on our roads.
Can't see it coming over here for a year or three (if ever), but do expect to see various 'special edition' Mustangs (California Special, Mach 1) coming beforehand with mild upgrades, probably mostly cosmetic with perhaps some ECU power upgrades.
Implying that it costs 'the equivalent of £33k' etc is plain misleading though. There's import duty, VAT and shipping etc to add to the sticker price. A RHD V8 GT is already more than that here.
So you may pay the equivalent of £33k stateside, but expect a much more sizeable dent in your wallet by the time you've got it home and legalised for use on our roads.
Did Ford not say that within 18 months of launch, the v8 uk mustang will be producing this sort of power? Surely they won't be giving it this engine to achieve that? It was a daft thing for Ford to announce - surely if that's case the thing to do is wait... Maybe the uk car will get this engine configuration - an extra 100 horses would be a challenge with no forced induction.
I had to watch (or listen to!) that video a second time - that sound is mechanical porn!
Shame we aren't likely to get them in RHD, but they probably wouldn't sell enough to justify it.
Sadly I'm not in a position to buy a new car any more, but despite having had BMWs for the last decade they no longer make anything I would buy anyway - all turbo'd, flappy-paddled, sound synthesized, selectable mode b
s!
If I had the cash I'd be straight down to Ford for a place on the Mustang GT waiting list! Maybe resuming normal service - had plenty of RWD Fords in the past!
Shame we aren't likely to get them in RHD, but they probably wouldn't sell enough to justify it.
Sadly I'm not in a position to buy a new car any more, but despite having had BMWs for the last decade they no longer make anything I would buy anyway - all turbo'd, flappy-paddled, sound synthesized, selectable mode b
s! If I had the cash I'd be straight down to Ford for a place on the Mustang GT waiting list!
Maybe resuming normal service - had plenty of RWD Fords in the past!stephen300o said:
Lots of happy post, drooling and thumbs up, saying 'I'd have this over a BMW!' Then folks go out and buy a BMW..
For many, it's a small matter of running costs. Would love a GT but not sure I could make the maths work for c20k miles a year. - My wife would be using it to commute; we currently have a Mini JCW that's doing c40mpg on that run. We might think about moving closer to her work though...Clivey said:
For many, it's a small matter of running costs. Would love a GT but not sure I could make the maths work for c20k miles a year. - My wife would be using it to commute; we currently have a Mini JCW that's doing c40mpg on that run. We might think about moving closer to her work though...
Other than fuel (and even then it doesn't use that much more than the Focus ST I had) the running costs for the 2006 GT I own are no worse than a hot hatchback.PanzerCommander said:
Other than fuel (and even then it doesn't use that much more than the Focus ST I had) the running costs for the 2006 GT I own are no worse than a hot hatchback.
I expect it's also a lot more reliable than the overstressed, turbocharged Euro hot hatches generally are. - our Mini's timing chain's just been replaced at the dealer (warranty) but it's still making odd noises and the water pump's leaking. 
Unfortunately, we just couldn't stomach the purchase cost together with the RFL, insurance increase (we're 27) as well as double the fuel cost at the moment.
Clivey said:
I expect it's also a lot more reliable than the overstressed, turbocharged Euro hot hatches generally are. - our Mini's timing chain's just been replaced at the dealer (warranty) but it's still making odd noises and the water pump's leaking.
Unfortunately, we just couldn't stomach the purchase cost together with the RFL, insurance increase (we're 27) as well as double the fuel cost at the moment.
Other than the alternator (dry solder joint on the rectifier bridge) which would have been replaced under recall in the US, it hasn't put a foot wrong in the last 6 1/2 years I have had it (taking it from 23,500 to 87,100 miles). Everything replaced (other than racing suspension bits I have added) has been general wear and tear or general service items.Unfortunately, we just couldn't stomach the purchase cost together with the RFL, insurance increase (we're 27) as well as double the fuel cost at the moment.
It has genuinely been the best car I have owned.
Spiritual_Beggar said:
Was it the Eco lobby that prevented Ford bringing this here?
I thought it was an accounting decision; i.e.: the numbers they thought they'd sell meant it would be uneconomical to create a RHD production line?
Could be wrong.
Anyway, I can honestly say I would have put money down for one of these. Such a shame they aren't producing one for the UK market.
Pretty much this. 90% of people complaining that the car won't make it to Europe will end up in a diesel pesudo-luxo barge given the option. I thought it was an accounting decision; i.e.: the numbers they thought they'd sell meant it would be uneconomical to create a RHD production line?
Could be wrong.
Anyway, I can honestly say I would have put money down for one of these. Such a shame they aren't producing one for the UK market.
Mr Tidy said:
I had to watch (or listen to!) that video a second time - that sound is mechanical porn!
Shame we aren't likely to get them in RHD, but they probably wouldn't sell enough to justify it.
The sound is just apocalyptic! Shame we aren't likely to get them in RHD, but they probably wouldn't sell enough to justify it.
..... gives me the horn?! 
Official UK car or import, I'll be doing my best to get hold of one.Stig said:
For those desperate for a GT350, just import the bits from Shelby and get Bill Shepherd to fit. Job done. Shelby's are all just bolt on modifications anyway, despite the marketing blurb.
I agree with this - and don't lose sight of the fact that Shelby's power claims are usually nonsense. This month's Road & Track tests a 2016 m/y Shelby Super Snake that claims 750hp - but runs 3.9sec 0-60 and 12.3 quarter and costs base $87,000.For comparison my 2015 392 Challenger (stock, other than drag radial tires) runs 3.8 0-60 and 12 even in the quarter - and weighs conservatively 500lbs more and costs $45,000 less.
Matt Harper said:
Stig said:
For those desperate for a GT350, just import the bits from Shelby and get Bill Shepherd to fit. Job done. Shelby's are all just bolt on modifications anyway, despite the marketing blurb.
I agree with this - and don't lose sight of the fact that Shelby's power claims are usually nonsense. This month's Road & Track tests a 2016 m/y Shelby Super Snake that claims 750hp - but runs 3.9sec 0-60 and 12.3 quarter and costs base $87,000.For comparison my 2015 392 Challenger (stock, other than drag radial tires) runs 3.8 0-60 and 12 even in the quarter - and weighs conservatively 500lbs more and costs $45,000 less.
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