Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc???????

Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc???????

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johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

103 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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Shmee said:
7,500 miles, I wonder if there's a higher mileage car outside of McLaren's own test fleet out there?
Really enjoyed your latest video. More detail than the others and less OMG AMAZING / doesn't excite me.

ReaperCushions

6,003 posts

184 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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johnwilliams77 said:
Shmee said:
7,500 miles, I wonder if there's a higher mileage car outside of McLaren's own test fleet out there?
Really enjoyed your latest video. More detail than the others and less OMG AMAZING / doesn't excite me.
I came on here to say the same thing actually,,, really enjoyed the video, way more than previous content.

You are very articulate and don't need to stoop to the teen / OMG! / CARBON! / WOW! style. I realize that they may well be your prime audience though.

One suggestion would be to try and source some external sound equipment. It is patchy at best using the built in mics, and this video was challenging to listen to when you were 'on it' inside the car.


frankenstein12

1,915 posts

96 months

Saturday 6th May 2017
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Shmee I just want to say thanks to you for explaining the ad revenue system from YT videos in terms of how YT content providers get paid depending on ads etc.

Since you explained it with those videos I watch (Your included) i am now letting the ads play out in full to make sure the YTuber gets paid or recognised for their content.

I will make one note though which you could consider in reference to how you decide to monetise is personally I wont sit through more than a 30 second advert. If it shows as being a 1 minute ad I will simply hit skip after it gives the option or if it insists on playing the whole one minute ad I simply skip the video.

So thanks and other YT providers whos videos I watch should thank you too. thumbup

Edited by frankenstein12 on Saturday 6th May 18:48

Meridius

1,608 posts

152 months

Saturday 6th May 2017
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Too many of these 'Should I Buy a McLaren?!?!'... 'Will I Buy a Lambo?!?!?'.... 'Is My Next Car Going To Be A Ferrari?!?!?'.... they're all at it, every other video, but I understand that in todays world clickbait titles are what works.

InitialDave

11,880 posts

119 months

Saturday 6th May 2017
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I was interested to see what talky-biker-man Baron Von Grumble would do when I heard he was one of the people on the McLaren event, and I think his video was pretty good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2iM57oBzIc

jon-

16,505 posts

216 months

Saturday 6th May 2017
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InitialDave said:
I was interested to see what talky-biker-man Baron Von Grumble would do when I heard he was one of the people on the McLaren event, and I think his video was pretty good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2iM57oBzIc
McLaren went social stupid on this launch. Will be interesting to see the lessons learnt.

InitialDave

11,880 posts

119 months

Saturday 6th May 2017
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jon- said:
McLaren went social stupid on this launch. Will be interesting to see the lessons learnt.
Not quite sure what you mean by that. Spreading themselves too thin? Inviting people who aren't really car people?

Purso

867 posts

102 months

Saturday 6th May 2017
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That makes sense why the bloggers would follow that stratergy, what isn't so clear is why you tube would implement such a rule? Probably part of a bigger plan for interstellar domination.

InitialDave

11,880 posts

119 months

Saturday 6th May 2017
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Purso said:
That makes sense why the bloggers would follow that stratergy, what isn't so clear is why you tube would implement such a rule? Probably part of a bigger plan for interstellar domination.
I assume people viewing a smaller number of channels consistently makes it easier for them to manage things like selling advertising.

Petrolhead95

7,043 posts

154 months

Sunday 7th May 2017
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Meridius said:
Too many of these 'Should I Buy a McLaren?!?!'... 'Will I Buy a Lambo?!?!?'.... 'Is My Next Car Going To Be A Ferrari?!?!?'.... they're all at it, every other video, but I understand that in todays world clickbait titles are what works.
It's very sad but very true. As a motoring journalist for me to get decent views I have to put silly titles to try and gauge interest.

jon-

16,505 posts

216 months

Sunday 7th May 2017
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InitialDave said:
jon- said:
McLaren went social stupid on this launch. Will be interesting to see the lessons learnt.
Not quite sure what you mean by that. Spreading themselves too thin? Inviting people who aren't really car people?
Brand image more than anything. In the past, manufacturers like Ferrari have limited who gets to drive the new cars to well respected professionals, I'm assuming in theory to present an elite "best of the best" image.

McLaren seemingly inviting anyone with a youtube channel, even if it's not car based or they have any journalistic skills, kind of positions the 720S as a car for anyone. Which at over £200,000 it really isn't.

Influencer marketing is new, and everyone is trying to work out the best approach.

bluemason

1,070 posts

123 months

Sunday 7th May 2017
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jon- said:
Brand image more than anything. In the past, manufacturers like Ferrari have limited who gets to drive the new cars to well respected professionals, I'm assuming in theory to present an elite "best of the best" image.

McLaren seemingly inviting anyone with a youtube channel, even if it's not car based or they have any journalistic skills, kind of positions the 720S as a car for anyone. Which at over £200,000 it really isn't.

Influencer marketing is new, and everyone is trying to work out the best approach.
Ferrari are miles ahead in terms of brand recognition and market appeal but mclaren are just using the advantages of
influencer marketing (hate the word influecer) to attract the younger audiences and to also build brand appeal to non petrol heads.

twoblacklines

1,575 posts

161 months

Sunday 7th May 2017
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The stupid thing is when prospective buyers get told they can't test drive their potential £300k supercar because manu has given them all to 16-24 year old, broke, youtubers to take to the south of france for EPIC CONTENT YO.

Whos viewbase are 12-24 year old, broke, males.

I get that companies like McLaren want their brand to appeal to younger people but generally younger people can't even afford the deposit on PCP for one, so kind of pointless, no?

TopGear7

339 posts

176 months

Sunday 7th May 2017
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I think McLaren and their marketing team are smarter than this thread is giving them credit for. They know that using young Youtubers with followings of teenagers who don't have the money to buy their cars will not increase sales. However I don't think at this stage that's their primary aim.

You speak to any 5-10 year old and ask what's your dream car they will say Ferrari or Lambo.

You speak to a pensioner and ask them to name a fast car and it will be Ferrari or Lambo.

You speak to anyone with no interest in cars and ask them to name an expensive or flash car. It will be Ferrari or Lambo.

McLaren want to be a household name. They want to be the same aspirational brand as their competitors are. Outside of Petrolhead circles no one really knows about McLaren making road cars or would be able to point one out on the road. They're nowhere near that stage yet.

They don't need to really appeal to the people who can afford to buy their cars. You don't decide to part with 300k because you saw a fancy ad or they invite you to a special event. These people will buy whichever car they want regardless.

Edited by TopGear7 on Sunday 7th May 14:50

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 7th May 2017
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twoblacklines said:
I get that companies like McLaren want their brand to appeal to younger people but generally younger people can't even afford the deposit on PCP for one, so kind of pointless, no?
The younger people of today become the older buyers of tomorrow.


bluemason

1,070 posts

123 months

Sunday 7th May 2017
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twoblacklines said:
The stupid thing is when prospective buyers get told they can't test drive their potential £300k supercar because manu has given them all to 16-24 year old, broke, youtubers to take to the south of france for EPIC CONTENT YO.

Whos viewbase are 12-24 year old, broke, males.

I get that companies like McLaren want their brand to appeal to younger people but generally younger people can't even afford the deposit on PCP for one, so kind of pointless, no?
That is indeed true but mclaren is smart to be focused in getting a bigger market share from their competitors by pitching to the newer generation of supercar owners as desirability can attract an increase in sales growth.
Brands do



LanceRS

2,172 posts

137 months

Sunday 7th May 2017
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TopGear7 said:
I think McLaren and their marketing team are smarter than this thread is giving them credit for. They know that using young Youtubers with followings of teenagers who don't have the money to buy their cars will not increase sales. However I don't think at this stage that's their primary aim.

You speak to any 5-10 year old and ask what's your dream car they will say Ferrari or Lambo.

You speak to a pensioner and ask them to name a fast car and it will be Ferrari or Lambo.

You speak to anyone with no interest in cars and ask them to name an expensive or flash car. It will be Ferrari or Lambo.

McLaren want to be a household name. They want to be the same aspirational brand as their competitors are. Outside of Petrolhead circles no one really knows about McLaren making road cars or would be able to point one out on the road. They're nowhere near that stage yet.

They don't need to really appeal to the people who can afford to buy their cars. You don't decide to part with 300k because you saw a fancy ad or they invite you to a special event. These people will buy whichever car they want regardless.

Edited by TopGear7 on Sunday 7th May 14:50
Wise words indeed.

TheAngryDog

12,405 posts

209 months

Sunday 7th May 2017
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Petrolhead95 said:
Meridius said:
Too many of these 'Should I Buy a McLaren?!?!'... 'Will I Buy a Lambo?!?!?'.... 'Is My Next Car Going To Be A Ferrari?!?!?'.... they're all at it, every other video, but I understand that in todays world clickbait titles are what works.
It's very sad but very true. As a motoring journalist for me to get decent views I have to put silly titles to try and gauge interest.
You're a motoring journalist?

InitialDave

11,880 posts

119 months

Sunday 7th May 2017
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Interesting side note: I was at the filming for the last episode of Top Gear this series, and they had a 720 (with McLaren bods in attendance) in the studio. Filmed a bit with Jay Kay checking it out with Chris Harris, but didn't make the cut.

Now, if I were them, I'd be a bit irritated by that, and can't say I'd blame them for a day spent putting a load of bloggers in cars, given that doing so HAS got them a load of people seeing their product on screen.

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Sunday 7th May 2017
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There is little science to influencer / social marketing. The carmakers just count which channels and vloggers / bloggers have the most clicks or subscribers or followers, and then invite the top 10 (or whatever) for a jolly. They know a fast expensive car and a bit of sun in Europe somewhere will get a positive or semi-positive review in most cases.
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