Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc???????

Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc???????

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KHK

482 posts

84 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Tim really enjoying your vlog videos, nice break from the review videos which are fine but it's nice to switch things up once in a while. Look forward to your GTR collection.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Shmee has 8 new cars on order. coolyikes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYt6KkshRkw

911.2 GT3,
Ford GT,
TVR,
AMG-GTR
New Focus RS,

So what are the other 3?

My guess - Huracán Performante, GTC4 Lusso and the 720S.

e30m3Mark

16,205 posts

173 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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BlackLabel said:
Shmee has 8 new cars on order. coolyikes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYt6KkshRkw

911.2 GT3,
Ford GT,
TVR,
AMG-GTR
New Focus RS,

So what are the other 3?

My guess - Huracán Performante, GTC4 Lusso and the 720S.
Daewoo Matiz?

Good luck to the chap but can you really own / enjoy so many? Or is it about financial investment?

What's happened to Dan lately? His channel is one of the ones I enjoy most.

ETA - Just saw he'd uploaded this. I'm not really into drifting but a nice selection of cars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD1N7jl9cAQ


Edited by e30m3Mark on Friday 3rd November 10:05


Edited by e30m3Mark on Friday 3rd November 10:09

Shmee

7,565 posts

213 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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I'm looking at it two fold, there are cars I'm planning to add to a growing fleet that my dream is to one day make into a museum style collection somewhere with club house for the followers to visit; maybe at the Nurburgring, and there are others that will see big usage and be moved on.

I've accumulated so many pieces of merchandise and accessories to fill a huge place, and of course I hope the continued success of Shmee150 enables the possibility to grow out the cars too. The primary focus is of course the cars that have featured in the very content that made it possible to do all of this in the first place. For example the 675LT Spider and Vantage GT8 are the first fixed acquisitions, but then the AMG GT R and GT3 I don't see as permanent at this stage, things do change though. There are expectations of a more hardcore/rarer version of each which if possible for me then would be upgraded and made permanent.

In the mean time they will do crazy mileage and create all sorts of content; I honestly think my GT R could do 20k miles or more in 12 months from now. Of the other cars I've announced coming in, the Focus RS Edition will be a year or two of daily usage (selling my current RS), the TVR Griffith I could well see being a permanent feature, and the Ford GT is still too far away for me to really know what's happening with it. Of the other 3 'mystery' additions, the cover 3 very different price ranges, one is more like Focus RS territory, one is more like AMG GT R/GT3 territory, and one is a proper supercar; it's hard to say at this stage. Beyond that I also have LOIs on a number of cars that are not yet announced (so deposits cannot be placed).

At the end of the day, I'm incredible fortunate to purchase these cars through the work I do with cars in the first place and I very much like putting it back into the same thing. It's entirely true that you cannot drive them all at once but for me it moves away from that into growing it as a collection so from now on for example the 675LT and GT8 aren't going to do hugely regular usage, but that doesn't mean I'll sell them unless circumstances leave me no option as I want them to be part of this collection.

Japveesix

4,480 posts

168 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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^^Great post and interesting to get a bit of an insight into more longterm plans/ambitions for the brand and collection. Good luck with it all and I look forward to visiting the Shmeeseum (?).

ZOLLAR

19,908 posts

173 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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Shmee said:
.. and the Ford GT is still too far away for me to really know what's happening with it.
What's your thoughts on how things are going with it? any idea when you'll see yours?

I've seen a couple have been delivered in America already, great looking cars but whenever discussed the inevitable line of "it's taking too long to get to owners and be public" comes out.

Are Ford keeping in touch regarding it?

e30m3Mark

16,205 posts

173 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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Thanks for response Schmee and best of luck to you.

Streetrod

6,468 posts

206 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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ZOLLAR said:
Shmee said:
.. and the Ford GT is still too far away for me to really know what's happening with it.
What's your thoughts on how things are going with it? any idea when you'll see yours?

I've seen a couple have been delivered in America already, great looking cars but whenever discussed the inevitable line of "it's taking too long to get to owners and be public" comes out.

Are Ford keeping in touch regarding it?
The problem with the Ford GT is that it is taking way too long to get into customers hands. By the time most get theirs it will be looking very last year and very expensive for what is a very compromised road car. Others are currently producing comparable cars for £200k less

ZOLLAR

19,908 posts

173 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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Streetrod said:
ZOLLAR said:
Shmee said:
.. and the Ford GT is still too far away for me to really know what's happening with it.
What's your thoughts on how things are going with it? any idea when you'll see yours?

I've seen a couple have been delivered in America already, great looking cars but whenever discussed the inevitable line of "it's taking too long to get to owners and be public" comes out.

Are Ford keeping in touch regarding it?
The problem with the Ford GT is that it is taking way too long to get into customers hands. By the time most get theirs it will be looking very last year and very expensive for what is a very compromised road car. Others are currently producing comparable cars for £200k less
I wonder why it's taking so long, clearly there's a genuine reason but it seems strange for a company that basically developed mass production in the car industry.

Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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Would only be strange if Ford were actually building it.

Shmee

7,565 posts

213 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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My delivery window for the GT is September to December 2019... Assuming no further delays we are talking 24 months or so from now.

The car was something incredibly special as an experience, the storyline that sits behind it is wonderful, and the way Ford are involving their customers is beyond anything else I've seen. The downside of the car to me is simply the price tag and the delivery timescale, I expect a reasonable spec to come in at around £500-525k and that amount of money would buy you both a 720S and 812superfast side by side.

Not to mention, by late 2019 we will have the hardcore 488 already, McLaren's 720S 'LT' variant won't be too far afield, perhaps only a year behind. However, it's a car that it looks like only 500 or so will be built, in the UK I think we'll have maybe 20 or thereabouts and the story of it has been exceptionally exciting.

ChocolateFrog

25,151 posts

173 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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Doug DeMuro just passed 1 million subscribers. Him and Harry Metcalfe are the only car bloggers I watch.

Most people seem to hate DD's style, I quite like it, supplements proper car reviews from the likes of Harris and Bovingdon.

peterattheboro

1,362 posts

183 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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Shmee said:
My delivery window for the GT is September to December 2019... Assuming no further delays we are talking 24 months or so from now.

The car was something incredibly special as an experience, the storyline that sits behind it is wonderful, and the way Ford are involving their customers is beyond anything else I've seen. The downside of the car to me is simply the price tag and the delivery timescale, I expect a reasonable spec to come in at around £500-525k and that amount of money would buy you both a 720S and 812superfast side by side.

Not to mention, by late 2019 we will have the hardcore 488 already, McLaren's 720S 'LT' variant won't be too far afield, perhaps only a year behind. However, it's a car that it looks like only 500 or so will be built, in the UK I think we'll have maybe 20 or thereabouts and the story of it has been exceptionally exciting.
Suspect you'd be able to sell that on for a cool £1 million+ which would buy you the P1 successor.

Not sure why but the new Ford GT does absolutely nothing for me. Maybe because it's only a V6 and doesn't sound great.

Shmee

7,565 posts

213 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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peterattheboro said:
Suspect you'd be able to sell that on for a cool £1 million+ which would buy you the P1 successor.

Not sure why but the new Ford GT does absolutely nothing for me. Maybe because it's only a V6 and doesn't sound great.
Some of the offers that fly in on these cars are fairly ludicrous, even the GT R has people messaging me already for £25k over etc - but I buy these things to drive!

Blink982

766 posts

104 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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The Ford GT was my favourite car at Geneva 2017. Have any customers actually taken delivery?

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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ChocolateFrog said:
Doug DeMuro just passed 1 million subscribers. Him and Harry Metcalfe are the only car bloggers I watch.

Most people seem to hate DD's style, I quite like it, supplements proper car reviews from the likes of Harris and Bovingdon.
i like Doug Munroe, it is really interesting. i m just not a fan of another supercar owning vlogger fawning over his latest purchase and in truth they are dull. DM videos are good.

Escy

3,922 posts

149 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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Shmee, I just watched your "why does salomondrin have a pink Carrera GT?" video, I enjoyed it. You reeled me in with clickbait as it's nothing to do with Salomondrin but i'd have watched that video if you put a title that accurately described the content. Does a title like that do better than something that actually describes the content? Did you get his blessing to put his name in the title? Considering the opportunity with all those interesting cars I felt like you sold us short on the walkthrough.

Shmee

7,565 posts

213 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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Escy said:
Shmee, I just watched your "why does salomondrin have a pink Carrera GT?" video, I enjoyed it. You reeled me in with clickbait as it's nothing to do with Salomondrin but i'd have watched that video if you put a title that accurately described the content. Does a title like that do better than something that actually describes the content? Did you get his blessing to put his name in the title? Considering the opportunity with all those interesting cars I felt like you sold us short on the walkthrough.
If I had titled the video about a 964 RS, or anything relating to the 917s, 956, 962 etc I can assure you it would totally have failed in a way I could not even begin to describe.

There's a complicated story behind that video though; it was mid-afternoon and I knew I'd run a potential day without a video if I didn't shoot something - and in those situations one looks for what opportunities are around and what might potentially succeed on YouTube. To be honest it seemed like a fun spur of the moment idea, and I'd say in general it worked out fine.

Have you seen Alejandro's follow-up? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9r9odxNrCA

Streetrod

6,468 posts

206 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
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Shmee said:
My delivery window for the GT is September to December 2019... Assuming no further delays we are talking 24 months or so from now.

The car was something incredibly special as an experience, the storyline that sits behind it is wonderful, and the way Ford are involving their customers is beyond anything else I've seen. The downside of the car to me is simply the price tag and the delivery timescale, I expect a reasonable spec to come in at around £500-525k and that amount of money would buy you both a 720S and 812superfast side by side.

Not to mention, by late 2019 we will have the hardcore 488 already, McLaren's 720S 'LT' variant won't be too far afield, perhaps only a year behind. However, it's a car that it looks like only 500 or so will be built, in the UK I think we'll have maybe 20 or thereabouts and the story of it has been exceptionally exciting.
Like you said in two years time the GT is going to look very old hat. Before you get yours the P15, which is effectively McLaren's version of the Ford GT will have been delivered to customers and in all likely hood is going to mop the floor both on track and on the street with the GT. Yes it will be more expensive but I suspect it will be more special, obviously that is speculation at this point but I think it’s a good bet.

The GT's USP is the fact that its race version won LeMans, apart from that I am not sure what else it brings to the party that others currently do a lot better. It’s heavily compromised on the road, the engine is only a V6 and sounds crap, you can’t tour with it unless you have a support car and even then you have to stop every couple of hours because the tank is so small and the fuel consumption is a joke

KHK

482 posts

84 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
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So my friend Matt, who splits time between Vancouver/LA, sent me a IG message with him posing with Paul (SOL) in LA. He owns a LP640 and supposedly he bumped into Paul who spotted his car and was filming it for his vlog. Talk about a small world.


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