Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc???????

Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc???????

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Beefmeister

16,482 posts

229 months

Thursday 1st March 2018
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timrud said:
Beef - we are in a thread discussing if people like TGE are a scam. Discussion of his finances using public information is fair game.

One has to assume you getting twitchy and getting the mods to pull the post indicated we were getting a bit close to the truth
As I've said, nowt to do with me chief. Just explaining why I think the posts were edited by PH.

ooid

4,049 posts

99 months

Thursday 1st March 2018
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timrud said:
Beef - we are in a thread discussing if people like TGE are a scam. Discussion of his finances using public information is fair game.

One has to assume you getting twitchy and getting the mods to pull the post indicated we were getting a bit close to the truth
laugh


hyphen

26,262 posts

89 months

Thursday 1st March 2018
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Yipper said:
MrReg said:
Beefmeister said:
AJB1971 said:
Yipper said:
Folk always overestimate profit margins for companies.

Alphabet, Microsoft and Apple do 30,000 to 120,000 times more revenue, and at least 2 to 6 times more revenue per employee, than LDNM... they have unimaginable scale for software, downloads, services and physical products... and their net margins struggle to get above 20-25%.

With at least 4 owners dipping into the cash pool, on modest revenues and scale, it points to modest, not big, payouts. And if they are making big payouts, then it may not be sustainable.

Either way, it's fair to say he is doing a good job for himself. All income streams combined, a crude guess suggests he's making £100-300k a year, which is pretty good for that age (any age).
Why do you all care so much? Do you really think it's appropriate to be showing all of this in a thread on PH? Very strange, I'd suggest you go and play in the snow outside, it's far more fun.
I'd agree. I'd also put this down as against the PH rules.

Edited by andy.mod on Wednesday 28th February 15:46
Lol.

Here come the self-important, self-appointed forum police who are desperate to control other people's lives thumbup

The info is in the public domain.

It has been in the public domain for at least 1 year.

The guy, himself, under his own volition, and without coercion, went willingly and ably to the public press and public media and the public government records and publicly told the global and UK public his profession and his company's financial stats and its financial performance and its shareholders and its shareholder structure for the public to publicly read in a modern public society free from fascist online public oppression.

Don't blab your finances in public, and then complain when the public reads your finances.
Owned by Yipper, hang your head in shame lads hehe

rampageturke

2,622 posts

161 months

Thursday 1st March 2018
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not sure how much of a prolific youtuber he is, but came across this guy fixing up a grotty modified lambo and they're quite fun to watch, not sure about his other content, but the lambo ones are ok.

https://www.youtube.com/user/tavarish/videos

TheAngryDog

12,394 posts

208 months

Thursday 1st March 2018
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hyphen said:
Yipper said:
MrReg said:
Beefmeister said:
AJB1971 said:
Yipper said:
Folk always overestimate profit margins for companies.

Alphabet, Microsoft and Apple do 30,000 to 120,000 times more revenue, and at least 2 to 6 times more revenue per employee, than LDNM... they have unimaginable scale for software, downloads, services and physical products... and their net margins struggle to get above 20-25%.

With at least 4 owners dipping into the cash pool, on modest revenues and scale, it points to modest, not big, payouts. And if they are making big payouts, then it may not be sustainable.

Either way, it's fair to say he is doing a good job for himself. All income streams combined, a crude guess suggests he's making £100-300k a year, which is pretty good for that age (any age).
Why do you all care so much? Do you really think it's appropriate to be showing all of this in a thread on PH? Very strange, I'd suggest you go and play in the snow outside, it's far more fun.
I'd agree. I'd also put this down as against the PH rules.

Edited by andy.mod on Wednesday 28th February 15:46
Lol.

Here come the self-important, self-appointed forum police who are desperate to control other people's lives thumbup

The info is in the public domain.

It has been in the public domain for at least 1 year.

The guy, himself, under his own volition, and without coercion, went willingly and ably to the public press and public media and the public government records and publicly told the global and UK public his profession and his company's financial stats and its financial performance and its shareholders and its shareholder structure for the public to publicly read in a modern public society free from fascist online public oppression.

Don't blab your finances in public, and then complain when the public reads your finances.
Owned by Yipper, hang your head in shame lads hehe
It is a sad state of affairs..

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

229 months

Thursday 1st March 2018
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rampageturke said:
not sure how much of a prolific youtuber he is, but came across this guy fixing up a grotty modified lambo and they're quite fun to watch, not sure about his other content, but the lambo ones are ok.

https://www.youtube.com/user/tavarish/videos
Tavarish is one of my regular watches, he's got some really interesting projects on the go, like making a manual Merc SL55. He used to write for Jalopnik, may still do actually.

TheAngryDog

12,394 posts

208 months

Thursday 1st March 2018
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Beefmeister said:
rampageturke said:
not sure how much of a prolific youtuber he is, but came across this guy fixing up a grotty modified lambo and they're quite fun to watch, not sure about his other content, but the lambo ones are ok.

https://www.youtube.com/user/tavarish/videos
Tavarish is one of my regular watches, he's got some really interesting projects on the go, like making a manual Merc SL55. He used to write for Jalopnik, may still do actually.
There is a manual E55 with aftermarket supercharger being built by a user on another forum, but not on YT unfortunately. The 55 engines would have been epic with a manual box imo.

dannyDC2

7,543 posts

167 months

Thursday 1st March 2018
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rampageturke said:
not sure how much of a prolific youtuber he is, but came across this guy fixing up a grotty modified lambo and they're quite fun to watch, not sure about his other content, but the lambo ones are ok.

https://www.youtube.com/user/tavarish/videos
Hadn't heard of him, subscribed!

Getting green eyes sat here looking at his fleet/recording equipment... smile Audio is great... definitely one thing I'd like to improve on.

ETA: Just got up to this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmyPwYku1NQ (installing an android headunit)

This company were emailing me last year trying to get me to do a video like this with my M3 + one of their headunits. I think he did the video really well, you could hardly tell it was an advert. What's everyone's thoughts when a video like this pops up? It's an advert right, but he seems to have a nice way of delivering it.

Edited by dannyDC2 on Thursday 1st March 17:18

egor110

16,818 posts

202 months

Thursday 1st March 2018
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dannyDC2 said:
rampageturke said:
not sure how much of a prolific youtuber he is, but came across this guy fixing up a grotty modified lambo and they're quite fun to watch, not sure about his other content, but the lambo ones are ok.

https://www.youtube.com/user/tavarish/videos
Hadn't heard of him, subscribed!

Getting green eyes sat here looking at his fleet/recording equipment... smile Audio is great... definitely one thing I'd like to improve on.

ETA: Just got up to this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmyPwYku1NQ (installing an android headunit)

This company were emailing me last year trying to get me to do a video like this with my M3 + one of their headunits. I think he did the video really well, you could hardly tell it was an advert. What's everyone's thoughts when a video like this pops up? It's an advert right, but he seems to have a nice way of delivering it.

Edited by dannyDC2 on Thursday 1st March 17:18
Providing you come clean at the start that it's a advert i don't think anyone would be bothered .

Just like say micks garage have sent me product x to try out and then try it out .

InitialDave

11,856 posts

118 months

Thursday 1st March 2018
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dannyDC2 said:
This company were emailing me last year trying to get me to do a video like this with my M3 + one of their headunits. I think he did the video really well, you could hardly tell it was an advert. What's everyone's thoughts when a video like this pops up? It's an advert right, but he seems to have a nice way of delivering it.
These Chinese head units are made in quite a few flavours, such as Xtrons and Eonon. Mate has an Eonon one in his A4 that's the same deal, a slot-in replacement that looks like a factory item (they do E46 ones too). I have the same thing but in a normal double DIN design, as I have a standard slot in the dash.

Only thing to be aware of is that their returns process often involves sending it back to Hong Kong or wherever, even though when you buy it it's shipped from UK stock. My first one went a bit funny while still bench testing it, and had to be swapped - they were fine about it, but it just took a bit longer.

As for the advertising... It's your channel. If you want a head unit in the E46, and someone's willing to give you one for free, why not? fk the haters, as the kids say. If you're concerned about your "integrity" as not beign a corporate shill, just make it clear to them that if the thing's a pig to install or borks out on you, you'll be telling people that, too.

adeewuff

15 posts

90 months

Thursday 1st March 2018
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corozin said:
I don't know about anyone else, but I find Shmee pretty irritating. His vlogs are like watching CeeBeebies for motorists.
That literally had me spitting my tea out! Bravo! Spot on!

Shmee

7,565 posts

212 months

Thursday 1st March 2018
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adeewuff said:
corozin said:
I don't know about anyone else, but I find Shmee pretty irritating. His vlogs are like watching CeeBeebies for motorists.
That literally had me spitting my tea out! Bravo! Spot on!
Fair enough, that's the beauty of the internet, you can watch what you want to watch and ignore the rest; I'm not forcing anybody!

At the end of the day I just put stuff on the internet and people started watching, sharing and engaging with it; I enjoy what I do and will continue to do so.

jon-

16,497 posts

215 months

Thursday 1st March 2018
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Shmee said:
adeewuff said:
corozin said:
I don't know about anyone else, but I find Shmee pretty irritating. His vlogs are like watching CeeBeebies for motorists.
That literally had me spitting my tea out! Bravo! Spot on!
Fair enough, that's the beauty of the internet, you can watch what you want to watch and ignore the rest; I'm not forcing anybody!

At the end of the day I just put stuff on the internet and people started watching, sharing and engaging with it; I enjoy what I do and will continue to do so.
The irony is that "sideways sid" is on CeeBeebies, and is essentially youtube famous for driving dangerously on public roads. Tim would be much better suited.

jon-

16,497 posts

215 months

Thursday 1st March 2018
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jon- said:
Just a quick update for those of you interested in how youtube support handled my request about the "dislike bomb" on a couple of my videos.

They essentially emailed back saying there was no unusual activity on the channel and attached two graphs (views to dislikes).

These are the two graphs. Am I alone in thinking there's some pretty clear unusual activity...


Just as a further update to this, YT support are still insisting there's no unusual activity, and repeatedly explaining how the dislikes are calculated.

youtube said:
I understand you're concerned about the dislikes from a specific user. In this regard, I've been investigating on your issue from all the aspects and I've looped in additional teams to make sure that we dig deep to check for any anomaly. However, we could not find any abnormal behavior with the 2 videos on your channel. Keep in mind that likes and dislikes are just a quick way for your channel's community to engage and express their opinion. If you feel that more dislikes may affect user engagement, you can always hide the like/dislike count for a particular video. Here’s how: Creator Studio > Video Manager > Edit the particular video > Advanced settings > Uncheck "users can view ratings for this video."

While we do agree that no system is perfect, we would like to assure you that we are constantly working on improving our products and services. As the system evolves, we plan to optimize the experience based on performance, viewer behavior, device, and context. As you may be aware, we cannot control the choices of our users, it is up to the user's discretion whether to express their opinion by liking/disliking a video. Rest assured YouTube video likes/dislikes can only be done by logged in viewers, there's less spam potential than for views. You can check the Likes and Dislikes report that summarizes how many people liked and disliked your videos.

At YouTube, we usually validate likes/dislikes to ensure their accuracy. If you believe that there is someone who's deliberately disliking your videos just to affect your user engagement, you may report them via YouTube’s reporting tool. The relevant team will review your request and take the necessary action against the user if found to be inappropriate. Please be assured as your videos are trending in an organic fashion. I've checked your channel and liked the way you present. I can very well see your efforts in creating quality content. Please keep frequently uploading great content and I'm positive that your channel will garner more subscribers in the future.
And here's a few more graphs. 29 dislikes from a region with only 7 views on the same date (this was the much smaller bomb of the two)




Because I'm under 100k subs I don't get a partner support manager, so they won't do anything about it.

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 1st March 2018
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Yipper said:
MrReg said:
Beefmeister said:
AJB1971 said:
Yipper said:
Folk always overestimate profit margins for companies.

Alphabet, Microsoft and Apple do 30,000 to 120,000 times more revenue, and at least 2 to 6 times more revenue per employee, than LDNM... they have unimaginable scale for software, downloads, services and physical products... and their net margins struggle to get above 20-25%.

With at least 4 owners dipping into the cash pool, on modest revenues and scale, it points to modest, not big, payouts. And if they are making big payouts, then it may not be sustainable.

Either way, it's fair to say he is doing a good job for himself. All income streams combined, a crude guess suggests he's making £100-300k a year, which is pretty good for that age (any age).
Why do you all care so much? Do you really think it's appropriate to be showing all of this in a thread on PH? Very strange, I'd suggest you go and play in the snow outside, it's far more fun.
I'd agree. I'd also put this down as against the PH rules.

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 28th February 15:46
Lol.

Here come the self-important, self-appointed forum police who are desperate to control other people's lives thumbup

The info is in the public domain.

It has been in the public domain for at least 1 year.

The guy, himself, under his own volition, and without coercion, went willingly and ably to the public press and public media and the public government records and publicly told the global and UK public his profession and his company's financial stats and its financial performance and its shareholders and its shareholder structure for the public to publicly read in a modern public society free from fascist online public oppression.

Don't blab your finances in public, and then complain when the public reads your finances.
fk me ! Yipper shows some teeth .

Wonders will never cease.

InitialDave

11,856 posts

118 months

Thursday 1st March 2018
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jon- said:
Just as a further update to this, YT support are still insisting there's no unusual activity, and repeatedly explaining how the dislikes are calculated.
Ok, this is strange, I could've sworn I replied to this already. Ah well.

I think you're getting a very condescending "let me explain to you with crayons what downvotes are" because they can't been seen to admit that someone is able to manipulate their system in that way. So they just sidestep the whole subject.

brightbluesmurf

78 posts

73 months

Thursday 1st March 2018
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I follow quite a few of the youtubers and in general they tend to stick to cars but ever so often someone will be peddling something suspect. Cue 'Anishvin' so called property investor, trader and car youtuber.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMa5Ew8-Adk

This is how dangerous 'influencers' can be when they link to a (binary) trading platform in Australia with a paltry £50 bonus. I really hope the viewer isn't so naive to join such a firm where for non-Australians the AFS license does not apply. Very high risk.

I checked the FCA register to see if this guy has any history in investment banking and zilch.

mad

Nineoneone

77 posts

188 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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Was Shmee not pushing one of these online trading schemes to his young followers ?

jon-

16,497 posts

215 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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InitialDave said:
jon- said:
Just as a further update to this, YT support are still insisting there's no unusual activity, and repeatedly explaining how the dislikes are calculated.
Ok, this is strange, I could've sworn I replied to this already. Ah well.

I think you're getting a very condescending "let me explain to you with crayons what downvotes are" because they can't been seen to admit that someone is able to manipulate their system in that way. So they just sidestep the whole subject.
I sadly think you're 100% right.

camshafted

938 posts

164 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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Do you not have to be registered with a financial body of sorts to be providing financial advice?
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