Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc???????

Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc???????

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NickCQ

5,392 posts

96 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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camshafted said:
Do you not have to be registered with a financial body of sorts to be providing financial advice?
If I understand it correctly, a lot of that kind of regulation is circumvented by the fact that these products (binary options, financial spread betting and so on) are regulated as gambling rather than investing.

S11Steve

6,374 posts

184 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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brightbluesmurf said:
I follow quite a few of the youtubers and in general they tend to stick to cars but ever so often someone will be peddling something suspect. Cue 'Anishvin' so called property investor, trader and car youtuber.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMa5Ew8-Adk

This is how dangerous 'influencers' can be when they link to a (binary) trading platform in Australia with a paltry £50 bonus. I really hope the viewer isn't so naive to join such a firm where for non-Australians the AFS license does not apply. Very high risk.

I checked the FCA register to see if this guy has any history in investment banking and zilch.

mad
There was previously a very long and interesting thread on this very subject, but it was pulled by mods for various reasons. Youtube and Social Media is full of these "traders" and "multi-stream entrepreneurs", many are simply affiliates drawing suckers with rented supercars, posh AirBnB flats, and fake Rolex..

Each one was a con in some form, but they are still out there - now that Binary Options has been regulated to a degree, they are now all pumping out affiliate links for crypto-currency scams.





e30m3Mark

16,205 posts

173 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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jon- said:
Shmee said:
adeewuff said:
corozin said:
I don't know about anyone else, but I find Shmee pretty irritating. His vlogs are like watching CeeBeebies for motorists.
That literally had me spitting my tea out! Bravo! Spot on!
Fair enough, that's the beauty of the internet, you can watch what you want to watch and ignore the rest; I'm not forcing anybody!

At the end of the day I just put stuff on the internet and people started watching, sharing and engaging with it; I enjoy what I do and will continue to do so.
The irony is that "sideways sid" is on CeeBeebies, and is essentially youtube famous for driving dangerously on public roads. Tim would be much better suited.
All just comes down to perception of personality due to what we (as posters here or on YT) put out there I guess? We all like different stuff and can all be more or less tolerant of the stuff we dislike on any given day dependent on what we have going on in our own lives.

I guess you just need to be pretty thick skinned when you put videos out and literally invite comments from all and sundry? Even if a lot of the negative stuff isn't justified, I'm not sure I'd want to read it. I'd be sat giving return fire 24/7! I'll just stick to a little bit of magazine editorial so there's no "comment section" for people to tell me what a wker I am instead! laugh

Anyone spotted any more UK channels like Dans, where they drive more unusual 80's & 90's cars?

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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brightbluesmurf said:
I follow quite a few of the youtubers and in general they tend to stick to cars but ever so often someone will be peddling something suspect. Cue 'Anishvin' so called property investor, trader and car youtuber.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMa5Ew8-Adk

This is how dangerous 'influencers' can be when they link to a (binary) trading platform in Australia with a paltry £50 bonus. I really hope the viewer isn't so naive to join such a firm where for non-Australians the AFS license does not apply. Very high risk.

I checked the FCA register to see if this guy has any history in investment banking and zilch.

mad
Yep

He's a piece of work and no mistake.

Old man sells business for many millions and son sets himself up as a trading and property genius complete with "you too can be like me if you just sign up to this course I'm selling" schtick.

I despise people like that.




North West Tom

11,517 posts

177 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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Nineoneone said:
Was Shmee not pushing one of these online trading schemes to his young followers ?
Can't recall Tim doing it, but I know JWW was working with Trading 212. Thankfully though, people called him out for it.

dannyDC2

7,543 posts

168 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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InitialDave said:
These Chinese head units are made in quite a few flavours, such as Xtrons and Eonon. Mate has an Eonon one in his A4 that's the same deal, a slot-in replacement that looks like a factory item (they do E46 ones too). I have the same thing but in a normal double DIN design, as I have a standard slot in the dash.

Only thing to be aware of is that their returns process often involves sending it back to Hong Kong or wherever, even though when you buy it it's shipped from UK stock. My first one went a bit funny while still bench testing it, and had to be swapped - they were fine about it, but it just took a bit longer.

As for the advertising... It's your channel. If you want a head unit in the E46, and someone's willing to give you one for free, why not? fk the haters, as the kids say. If you're concerned about your "integrity" as not beign a corporate shill, just make it clear to them that if the thing's a pig to install or borks out on you, you'll be telling people that, too.
egor110 said:
Providing you come clean at the start that it's a advert i don't think anyone would be bothered .

Just like say micks garage have sent me product x to try out and then try it out .
Thanks for the feedback chaps

S9JTO

1,915 posts

86 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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North West Tom said:
Can't recall Tim doing it, but I know JWW was working with Trading 212. Thankfully though, people called him out for it.
Think you've got the two confused. Schmee did an entire tour funded by Trading 212, it even included little segments of each video dedicated to the Schmee teams' financial gains/losses in the style of a competition, encouraging subscribers to get involved. Albeit free money, still a little suspect IMO.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

103 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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North West Tom said:
Nineoneone said:
Was Shmee not pushing one of these online trading schemes to his young followers ?
Can't recall Tim doing it, but I know JWW was working with Trading 212. Thankfully though, people called him out for it.
He definitely did!

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

103 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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North West Tom said:
Nineoneone said:
Was Shmee not pushing one of these online trading schemes to his young followers ?
Can't recall Tim doing it, but I know JWW was working with Trading 212. Thankfully though, people called him out for it.
He definitely did!
https://youtu.be/k0-G2mUt_wc

sparks85

332 posts

175 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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dannyDC2 said:
Thanks for the feedback chaps
Danny

If it's any use I did a step by step thread here for installing an Xtrons unit in an E46.

http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?t=182...

Post #30 onward.

Keep up the good work on Autobarn.

Ben

AJB1971

350 posts

75 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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S9JTO said:
Think you've got the two confused. Schmee did an entire tour funded by Trading 212, it even included little segments of each video dedicated to the Schmee teams' financial gains/losses in the style of a competition, encouraging subscribers to get involved. Albeit free money, still a little suspect IMO.

They both did.

I seem to remember they loaned JWW a GT3 RS with their branding on it.

No doubt they paid very well, but I suppose it’s a question of where you draw the line.

dannyDC2

7,543 posts

168 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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sparks85 said:
Danny

If it's any use I did a step by step thread here for installing an Xtrons unit in an E46.

http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?t=182...

Post #30 onward.

Keep up the good work on Autobarn.

Ben
Cheers bud.

I doubt I'll be going for it, was just more curious about the advertising aspect smile

S9JTO

1,915 posts

86 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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AJB1971 said:
They both did.

I seem to remember they loaned JWW a GT3 RS with their branding on it.

No doubt they paid very well, but I suppose it’s a question of where you draw the line.
Ah yes you're right I remember that now... Some months after Shmee and his Shquad

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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I think the lesson has been learned following the negative feedback. They don't do it any more.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

103 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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Beefmeister said:
I think the lesson has been learned following the negative feedback. They don't do it any more.
Didn’t think they cared what the PH masses thought since we are such a tiny minority but I seem to remember the entire comments section littered with negativity?

NickCQ

5,392 posts

96 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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johnwilliams77 said:
Didn’t think they cared what the PH masses thought since we are such a tiny minority but I seem to remember the entire comments section littered with negativity?
True but I imagine the signal/noise ratio of this thread is much better than YT comments!

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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johnwilliams77 said:
Beefmeister said:
I think the lesson has been learned following the negative feedback. They don't do it any more.
Didn’t think they cared what the PH masses thought since we are such a tiny minority but I seem to remember the entire comments section littered with negativity?
That's what I was referring to. I'm sure they really don't care what the people of this thread think, any more than any other small group of people anyway.

Punio

70 posts

83 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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Archie has sold his R8, but I think he'll be replacing it with a 358, which is a bit dated now hmm...

Shmee

7,565 posts

213 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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The topic had been quite an interesting discussion, I likened it to how about 75% of the teams in the Premier League are sponsored by gambling websites which presumably caused as much offense in football forums when it first started. I will add however that I never, ever suggested those under 18 should get involved, not only would that be illegal but also the age statistics of my YouTube audience were around 3% under 18s at the time.

It's a calculation analysis that a business has to do; if £x was the same between two companies and one of them you suspected would have this reaction then obviously you'd go the other way. If one was £x and the other was £10x, you're going to have to think about it. If you always chase the money and are ignorant of your audience's reaction and perception then it will ultimately backfire, but you can calculate a balance behind this and determine on a case by case basis if it's the right choice.

CityS

178 posts

197 months

Friday 2nd March 2018
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KHK said:
I was watching a London spotters YT video and spotted a M3 with BC plates (local to me) rolling around in London. Turns out the owner shipped his car from Vancouver to London for the heck of it. Pretty cool sight.

I've seen a number of Canadian cars in London since 2006, many BMWs.
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